WOW~! Tren is G-O-D

[iHulk]

So I'm headig into week 4 of my first time doing Tren. All I have to say is WOW! This shit is the amlighty. Never been more ripped than this.
Fina's got some serious punching power.
Merruy Christmas to me.

Sides:
Had a few night sweats, some short temper busts and some yellow urine from not enough water intake, but for the most part, sides are totally bearable. I admit, I was once skeptical of Tren because of the "terrible sides" bad rap and all that jazz, but for real, its nothing compared to a Test crash and the libido is out of control.

Cyc:
Tren Ace 75 mg ed
SUS 500 mg/week
Var 80mg/day
Stanz 30mg eod

 

[eastcoastplayer]

i hear so many good things about the effects of tren, but, like you i have heard so much about the bad sides. i have been lucky so far with sides even w deca.
good luck and keep us posted

 

[iHulk]

i hear so many good things about the effects of tren, but, like you i have heard so much about the bad sides. i have been lucky so far with sides even w deca.
good luck and keep us posted

thanks eastside, I'll get some pics up after the holidays

 

[medrep]

i'm trying it in march, the only thing that scares me is the insomnia, how are you sleeping?

 

[marshallmadman]

I love it myself. About to start soon. Only thing I hate is the dreaded coughs.

 

[lifthard2005]

currently on tren @ 100mg ed, dbol @ 100mg ed, Sus @ 250mg ed......running it for 4 weeks and am on day 3 and am already seeing a difference. Also on PureCEE, PureMCC, and Amplify02.

no cough, only insomnia so far....when i used BD tren, i had the cough real bad.

 

[iHulk]

i'm trying it in march, the only thing that scares me is the insomnia, how are you sleeping?

not a prob at all -- I do my shots in the morning
Couple timesdid them in the afternoon before the w/o and still no prob.

 

[OMEGA]

as gay as it may sound

a couple of glasses of hot milk at night go ALONG way in helping with Sleep

 

[iHulk]

I love it myself. About to start soon. Only thing I hate is the dreaded coughs.

you know now that I think about it, I did have a few coughing fits.
I did have a few coughing fits the first week or so. Haven't had one in the past week though so forgot about it

 

[iHulk]

currently on tren @ 100mg ed, dbol @ 100mg ed, Sus @ 250mg ed......running it for 4 weeks and am on day 3 and am already seeing a difference. Also on PureCEE, PureMCC, and Amplify02.

no cough, only insomnia so far....when i used BD tren, i had the cough real bad.

damm, now thats a stack. Sus 250mg ED!! Or do you mean 1/wk?

 

[iHulk]

as gay as it may sound

a couple of glasses of hot milk at night go ALONG way in helping with Sleep

I agree, it does help. Soothes the stomach.
I just drink it cold and with some Choc ovaltein. can't live without Choc milk.

 

[Cutt29]

as gay as it may sound

a couple of glasses of hot milk at night go ALONG way in helping with Sleep

lmao! yea that does sound a lil gay


in all seriousness tho hot milk does help a little bit as the heat changes up the chemical structure but the help will def be dependent on the severity of the insomnia

 

[JuicedAthletics]

I hope you mean 250 per week. Either way nice stack...

iHulk.. I can't imagine how lean and vascular you are going to get on tren.. If var and test cut you up like that, then you are in for a trip...

Good luck and looking forward to some pics..

 

[OMEGA]

lmao! yea that does sound a lil gay


i

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[Cutt29]

?

lmao!

 

[OMEGA]

haha

 

[iHulk]

Also getting some crazy looks at the gym. Some gay, some just "wtf is that guy on?" type of looks. Luv it.

 

[armo72]

Thats a hard cycle lifthard...Must be getting CRAZY strong!

 

[dsh89]

Yup all the good talk about tren I am going to add in some tren-e to my cycle. Grats Ihulk on the good results.

 

[solidspine]

I guess I am on week 3 of Fina at 100mg per day. I only get the cough occasionally, and when I get it, well it is comical, my wife is ready to call an ambulance.

And omega, I am drinking warm milk as I type, it is about 11:00 pm here

 

[Mavafanculo]

currently on tren @ 100mg ed, dbol @ 100mg ed, Sus @ 250mg ed......running it for 4 weeks and am on day 3 and am already seeing a difference. Also on PureCEE, PureMCC, and Amplify02.

no cough, only insomnia so far....when i used BD tren, i had the cough real bad.

yeah same here with the BD Tren and the cough

what lab you using now?

 

[midnightcaper]

I guess I am on week 3 of Fina at 100mg per day. I only get the cough occasionally, and when I get it, well it is comical, my wife is ready to call an ambulance.

And omega, I am drinking warm milk as I type, it is about 11:00 pm here

hmm warm milk, maybe i'll give that a try since its 2:50 am here

 

[MR. BMJ]

You will end up looking back and wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

Tren-A-Holic here.....it's been awhile since i've used it though.

BMJ

 

[JKurz1]

I got a nice blend for my next.....75mg tren, 100mg master, 100mg prop....eod.....sound diced?

 

[medrep]

not a prob at all -- I do my shots in the morning
Couple timesdid them in the afternoon before the w/o and still no prob.

good idea doing them in the AM..
your pretty lean in your avi already dude your going to look sick after this run!

 

[medrep]

I guess I am on week 3 of Fina at 100mg per day. I only get the cough occasionally, and when I get it, well it is comical, my wife is ready to call an ambulance.

And omega, I am drinking warm milk as I type, it is about 11:00 pm here

SS I thought you said your sides went away after a few weeks? Do you still have insomnia/night sweats? Are you doing AM shots?

 

[omega529]

So I'm headig into week 4 of my first time doing Tren. All I have to say is WOW! This shit is the amlighty. Never been more ripped than this.
Fina's got some serious punching power.
Merruy Christmas to me.

Sides:
Had a few night sweats, some short temper busts and some yellow urine from not enough water intake, but for the most part, sides are totally bearable. I admit, I was once skeptical of Tren because of the "terrible sides" bad rap and all that jazz, but for real, its nothing compared to a Test crash and the libido is out of control.

Cyc:
Tren Ace 75 mg ed
SUS 500 mg/week
Var 80mg/day
Stanz 30mg eod

Why not take black cohosh for night sweats...or bio NONI from tahiti trader.....maybee that will help with night sweats

 

[lookingforanedge]

I got the strongest I ever have been while on Tren....makes you as strong as an ox

 

[ben dovergurl]

I got the strongest I ever have been while on Tren....makes you as strong as an ox

thats because its pretty much "for" an ox lol..

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i wanna avoid all wind issues with tren but i was told that it even at like 20mg ed will boost strength and you wont have any of the breathing issues... but i havent tried it...but it is one fuckin potent androgen...lol that and halo are the gnarliest

 

[Mavafanculo]

I didnt realize how amazing it is until I came off - even tho I substituted test, I had nowhere near the recovery ability or strength.

on tren I was doing multiple sets of x-reps, negatives, double-drop sets, static contraction, just beating the shit out of myself - and growing and cutting.

on test, ^ that just made me overtrain.

 

[52_21_30]

I didnt realize how amazing it is until I came off - even tho I substituted test, I had nowhere near the recovery ability or strength.

on tren I was doing multiple sets of x-reps, negatives, double-drop sets, static contraction, just beating the shit out of myself - and growing and cutting.

on test, ^ that just made me overtrain.

Well said. Just be careful. It does nothing for ligaments or tendons. Seen bro's tear shit up pretty bad when on tren/halo stacks.

 

[ben dovergurl]

thats the hardest thing for me to do...i know that i can do more weight but i know better...whats a brother to do?

 

[starskulker]

Tren might be GOD but it turns me into the DEVIL!!

 

[melochai]

I agree, it does help. Soothes the stomach.
I just drink it cold and with some Choc ovaltein. can't live without Choc milk.

A hot piece of ass will do the same...LOL

 

[wags8]

Damn.... jkurz on tren? Now you'll be too pissed off to eat. Just kidding. Good luck with what I think is the most profoundly effective of them all.

 

[instant.muscle]

I got a nice blend for my next.....75mg tren, 100mg master, 100mg prop....eod.....sound diced?

PFM? thats my next also but i'm doing it ED

 

[Arabian]

Good Luck with your cycle. I want to run a tren cycle myself next year.

 

[JKurz1]

This is going to be FARRRR down the line.......I need to get fat first....think If someone was to get about 14-15% then run this cycle on a good clean cardio/training + diet with high cals, it could shred em?

 

[anabolic12]

I have wanted to try tren for so long, but I got it in my head that this cough thing is just horrible... I guess I have talked myself out of it, but when I see these post it make me want to give it a shot.
Is there any way to avoid this cough, and what type of AI do most of you use on Tren cycles..

 

[LiquidPhire]

I have wanted to try tren for so long, but I got it in my head that this cough thing is just horrible... I guess I have talked myself out of it, but when I see these post it make me want to give it a shot.
Is there any way to avoid this cough, and what type of AI do most of you use on Tren cycles..

Tren doesnt aromatize....

 

[52_21_30]

I have wanted to try tren for so long, but I got it in my head that this cough thing is just horrible... I guess I have talked myself out of it, but when I see these post it make me want to give it a shot.
Is there any way to avoid this cough, and what type of AI do most of you use on Tren cycles..

I've used tren many times with no cough, insomnia, or night sweats. Of course, I'm sure I just jinxed myself and will get the said sides this time around, as I'm taking the dose up to 125 mg/day for the first time (actually more like a shade over 100 mg/day). When it comes to sides, unfortunately it's very unpredictable from person to person. For example, many of us (myself included) experience intense anxiety as a major side effect of EQ. With tren, many suffer from hair loss, night sweats, chronic cough, and insomnia. It varies from person to person.

As far s an AI when using tren, it's sort of a misnomer. Tren does not aromatize, but the "gyno" it produces is a result of increased prolactin production (tren is a progestin), and the "lumps" you feel udner your nipples (like the ones I have right now ) are not true gynecomastia. As such, I prefer to use cabergoline when on tren. It's not the cheapest thing in the world, and I only use it when running tren with deca (this is not something I'd necessarily advise at all, just a personal stack - with test and other stuff - that works for me).

My advice would be, when you get around to it, do a simple test/tren cycle with tren acetate at no more than 75 mg EOD. This will allow you to stop it if the sides become unbearable, and it will be out of your system in days. If you use parabolan (tren hex), tren enan, or a blend like Trinabol, you're stuck with the sides for longer periods of time.

Anyway that's just my $.02 If anything here is inaccurate I trust the bro's on here will correct me

 

[lifthard2005]

damm, now thats a stack. Sus 250mg ED!! Or do you mean 1/wk?

no bro, 250mg Sustanon EVERY DAY, 100mg Tren A EVERYDAY, 100mg Dbol EVERYDAY for 30 days straight...then off

trying to get on, hit it hard, then get off and recover......

I am experimenting with a short cycle, high dosed....so far I am blowing up, but I am holding water, this is only day 5 and I already am seeing a difference....

 

[lifthard2005]

yeah same here with the BD Tren and the cough

what lab you using now?

Right now I'm using NV Tren and NV sustanon, and raw dbol powder capped......i think the tren is underdosed because I used to feel it more in the past using other labs, but it is day 5 like i said....

what lab are you ising bro?

 

[dal022]

I wont do tren just because of the cough

 

[MR. BMJ]

Tren is not the only compound you can get the cough from. I've had it with Test, NPP, etc....as well.

BMJ

 

[gettnlarge01]

I am experimenting with a short cycle, high dosed....so far I am blowing up, but I am holding water, this is only day 5 and I already am seeing a difference....[/QUOTE]
I ran sust 250mg/ed with 150mg/ed of a-bombs for a short cycle with great results and kept most of the gains. Lots of luck

 

[jacshelb]

My advice would be, when you get around to it, do a simple test/tren cycle with tren acetate at no more than 75 mg EOD. This will allow you to stop it if the sides become unbearable, and it will be out of your system in days. If you use parabolan (tren hex), tren enan, or a blend like Trinabol, you're stuck with the sides for longer periods of time.

Anyway that's just my $.02 If anything here is inaccurate I trust the bro's on here will correct me

Good advice! With the 75 mg. eod, you are ulikely to see sides, and with the test, you will feel pretty good, sleep better too imo. I've just had a bad cough once. It lasted several minutes- something like 10-12 total in spurts. I just had this taste in my mouth right after the shot and my throat felt funky. Then hacking for several minutes and it was gone. Only happened once, but was on only 75 mg. eod even. With 50 mg. eod, thrown in with prop, you won't even notice ANY sides from tren. But, you'll still see a little of it's benefits- in fact, enough benefits, especially if you're into lower doses.

 

[socom3]

I've done tren only cycles twice and I loved it.Granted I don't have alot of experience with other substances to compare it to..but the results were good.Massive pumps , incredible strength , few sides.Increased aggression(Anger issues to begin with though),could taste it in my throat sometimes after injecting.Didn't sleep that deeply.Heard stories of limp dick and kidney toxicity but everything worked fine and my urine was only slightly discolored.
I work a very physical job with long hours in the summer and it's usually too much for me to get to the gym after work(tired)But three months on tren at 50 mg everyday and I was an animal with unlimit ed strength and energy.

 

[Ulter]

Tren is not the only compound you can get the cough from. I've had it with Test, NPP, etc....as well.

BMJ

Pay attention here folks. Tren was originally made from pellets using conversion kits with high solvent content that is responsible for the cough. Thus, it was tagged TREN COUGH.
Any UG lab gear can do the same thing.

 

[joetrisman]

Pay attention here folks. Tren was originally made from pellets using conversion kits with high solvent content that is responsible for the cough. Thus, it was tagged TREN COUGH.
Any UG lab gear can do the same thing.

Learn something new everyday

 

[georgie24]

it all depends on the solvents, and if the chemist actually gives a shit for producing a high quality product

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

So I'm headig into week 4 of my first time doing Tren. All I have to say is WOW! This shit is the amlighty. Never been more ripped than this.
Fina's got some serious punching power.
Merruy Christmas to me.

Sides:
Had a few night sweats, some short temper busts and some yellow urine from not enough water intake, but for the most part, sides are totally bearable. I admit, I was once skeptical of Tren because of the "terrible sides" bad rap and all that jazz, but for real, its nothing compared to a Test crash and the libido is out of control.

Cyc:
Tren Ace 75 mg ed
SUS 500 mg/week
Var 80mg/day
Stanz 30mg eod

Now that's a fucking kick ass cycle right there bro! Very well thought out. How long are you running it?

 

[buffanator604]

whats the recommended maximum length to stay "on" tren acetate at 75 mgs eod for?
right now I have been on a stack of cypionate 250 every 3 days, and stacking it w/
tren ace 75mgs eod for approx 5 1/2 weeks now, the results are amazing with Tran,
more than any other compound I have tried.( this is my first time tryig it. ) I've had very minimal sides too; night seats, cough once, acne , and increased agression and
libido. would another 5 weeks be o.k??

 

[boston789]

Tren should be injected ED.

 

[qstorm]

Help me out here guys.
I am on Sus 375mg, Test E 250mg, Tren Hex 100mg, deca 200mg 2x ew. I have seen improvement in my strength doing 5/5. I am 6'5" 208 when I started. In two weeks I was 234. Now I am 240 so i cut my intake, this size is decent for me. Next week is my final shot so I just need some info for the my next cycle. Some week i look ripped, the next week i look bloated. My question is should I be doing tren eod instead of ew.

Thanks

 

[anabolic12]

I know there are hundreds of post on the difference between EOD & ED, but since i am gaining great info on the thread, please explain. Is this due to a decrease in sides being levels stay constant?
Secondly, if I am running test using Adex and/0r Nolva and incorporate Tren A into the cycle, what AI compound would I use with the above to combat prolactin issues?
Not saying that I am prone to it, but I want to be safe
Third, are most of you just seeing big increases in strength using Tren? Or are you making large gains?

 

[Ulter]

it all depends on the solvents, and if the chemist actually gives a shit for producing a high quality product

But they don't. They don't have the money to make gear in a Clean Room and they don't want the solute precipitating so they just add more solvent.

 

[anabolic12]

I know there are hundreds of post on the difference between EOD & ED, but since i am gaining great info on the thread, please explain. Is this due to a decrease in sides being levels stay constant?
Secondly, if I am running test using Adex and/0r Nolva and incorporate Tren A into the cycle, what AI compound would I use with the above to combat prolactin issues?
Not saying that I am prone to it, but I want to be safe
Third, are most of you just seeing big increases in strength using Tren? Or are you making large gains?

Bumping for this question

 

[52_21_30]

I know there are hundreds of post on the difference between EOD & ED, but since i am gaining great info on the thread, please explain. Is this due to a decrease in sides being levels stay constant?
Secondly, if I am running test using Adex and/0r Nolva and incorporate Tren A into the cycle, what AI compound would I use with the above to combat prolactin issues?
Not saying that I am prone to it, but I want to be safe
Third, are most of you just seeing big increases in strength using Tren? Or are you making large gains?

1. Yes, running ED is far superior to EOD as far as maintaining stable blood levels. Stable blood levels are directly related to sides or lack thereof. There is a post on the board that I can't seem to locate that had a link to a graph depicting the blood levels of tren ace when pinned ED vs EOD. After 3-5 days, the ED dosing schedule leveled off at a stable level, whereas the EOD had a sawtooth pattern with a considerable range.

2. Do not use Nolva with a progestin. Nolva up-regulates progesterone receptors and this is definitely the opposite of what you want when using something like tren, deca, etc. If anything, see if you can get some dostinex or bromocriptine.

3. Tren was designed to improve the QUALITY of muscle in farm animals reared for slaughter. I personally use tren for cutting/contest prep. It allows me to maintain all my LBM when on severe caloric restriction and at the same time makes me very, very strong. It also helps with muscle hardness/density, and vascularity (a byproduct of low bf%).

Hope this helped.

 

[anabolic12]

1. Yes, running ED is far superior to EOD as far as maintaining stable blood levels. Stable blood levels are directly related to sides or lack thereof. There is a post on the board that I can't seem to locate that had a link to a graph depicting the blood levels of tren ace when pinned ED vs EOD. After 3-5 days, the ED dosing schedule leveled off at a stable level, whereas the EOD had a sawtooth pattern with a considerable range.

2. Do not use Nolva with a progestin. Nolva up-regulates progesterone receptors and this is definitely the opposite of what you want when using something like tren, deca, etc. If anything, see if you can get some dostinex or bromocriptine.

3. Tren was designed to improve the QUALITY of muscle in farm animals reared for slaughter. I personally use tren for cutting/contest prep. It allows me to maintain all my LBM when on severe caloric restriction and at the same time makes me very, very strong. It also helps with muscle hardness/density, and vascularity (a byproduct of low bf%).

Hope this helped.

I can get some dostinex, would l take this product everyday like I would adex? Or would I just wait until I thought I was getting progestin?

 

[52_21_30]

I can get some dostinex, would l take this product everyday like I would adex? Or would I just wait until I thought I was getting progestin?

0.25 2-3 times weekly only after you start to notice sides.

 

[boston789]

1. Yes, running ED is far superior to EOD as far as maintaining stable blood levels. Stable blood levels are directly related to sides or lack thereof. There is a post on the board that I can't seem to locate that had a link to a graph depicting the blood levels of tren ace when pinned ED vs EOD. After 3-5 days, the ED dosing schedule leveled off at a stable level, whereas the EOD had a sawtooth pattern with a considerable range.

2. Do not use Nolva with a progestin. Nolva up-regulates progesterone receptors and this is definitely the opposite of what you want when using something like tren, deca, etc. If anything, see if you can get some dostinex or bromocriptine.

3. Tren was designed to improve the QUALITY of muscle in farm animals reared for slaughter. I personally use tren for cutting/contest prep. It allows me to maintain all my LBM when on severe caloric restriction and at the same time makes me very, very strong. It also helps with muscle hardness/density, and vascularity (a byproduct of low bf%).

Hope this helped.

Good post dude...this will help alot of people out.

 

[52_21_30]

Good post dude...this will help alot of people out.

No prob. That's what the board is for!

 

[georgie24]

tren makes me angry as hell no anxiety lol, i prefer parabolan/tren hex

 

[anabolic12]

0.25 2-3 times weekly only after you start to notice sides.

What would you suggest as a good length of time for a first time tren user?

50mgs ED 4 to 5 weeks, or 75mgs?

 

[georgie24]

who was it from here who used fina for like 2 years and developed some probelems??

i cant think of his name right now

 

[Ulter]

Just another reminder:
P Seven takes care of aggression sides of Tren.

 

[wags8]

I'll get some because these reminders are pissing me off. JK

 

[MR. BMJ]

I'll usually use Tren for 6-8 weeks if used during bulking cycles....usually at 100-150mg/d.

For cutting, i'll use tren the entire cycle until I reach my goals, which can be up to 20 weeks if need be. I usually use 75-100mg/d.

The longest i've used it for was about 5 months or so.....before taking a break from it.

....For bulking, my progestin of choice is NPP.

BMJ

 

[blut wump]

Milk is a good source of tryptophan which aids in sleep.

 

[elitetoxin]

So I'm headig into week 4 of my first time doing Tren. All I have to say is WOW! This shit is the amlighty. Never been more ripped than this.
Fina's got some serious punching power.
Merruy Christmas to me.

Sides:
Had a few night sweats, some short temper busts and some yellow urine from not enough water intake, but for the most part, sides are totally bearable. I admit, I was once skeptical of Tren because of the "terrible sides" bad rap and all that jazz, but for real, its nothing compared to a Test crash and the libido is out of control.

Cyc:
Tren Ace 75 mg ed
SUS 500 mg/week
Var 80mg/day
Stanz 30mg eod

yea, tren used to be my alltime favorite as well ... juice of the gods!

 

[52_21_30]

What would you suggest as a good length of time for a first time tren user?

50mgs ED 4 to 5 weeks, or 75mgs?

hmmm, i'd start at 50 mg ED for teh first 7-10 days. If you're not experiencing any sides then up it to 75 mg ED, but no more than that for a first run. Also, cap it at 6 weeks. What's very important when using tren is gauging how your body recovers (or doesn't) and how long it takes to do so. Then next time around you can experiment with higher doses of tren ace (if you choose), longer durations, or different preps (hex, enan, Trinabol)

 

[marshallmadman]

no bro, 250mg Sustanon EVERY DAY, 100mg Tren A EVERYDAY, 100mg Dbol EVERYDAY for 30 days straight...then off

trying to get on, hit it hard, then get off and recover......

I am experimenting with a short cycle, high dosed....so far I am blowing up, but I am holding water, this is only day 5 and I already am seeing a difference....

Good cycle there. I'll bet you feel like your head is going to explode from all that Dbol...I know I usually do when I run that much. Good luck to you my brother, and Merry Christmas.

 

[anabolic12]

hmmm, i'd start at 50 mg ED for teh first 7-10 days. If you're not experiencing any sides then up it to 75 mg ED, but no more than that for a first run. Also, cap it at 6 weeks. What's very important when using tren is gauging how your body recovers (or doesn't) and how long it takes to do so. Then next time around you can experiment with higher doses of tren ace (if you choose), longer durations, or different preps (hex, enan, Trinabol)

That sounds good... Last question for you, before I get my stock together for my first Tren Cycle... What type of PCt are you running with Tren.

All of my past cycles have include at least two or three of the following:

Sus, Winny, Anavar, Dbol, EQ, Prop

I have always only used Clomid and Nolva for my post... Just one of those things that seems to work for me

 

[52_21_30]

I have always only used Clomid and Nolva for my post... Just one of those things that seems to work for me

That's the name of the game right there. If it isnt broke, dont fix it. Personally, clomid fucks me up even more post cycle. I just use nolva and sometimes HCG. Tren has a tendency to shut you down hard and give marked testicular atrophy, so you might want to have HCG on hand. How to use HCG is somewhat of a debate. Many feel that it should be used throughout the cycle to cut down on testicular atrophy, other's prefer to use it during PCT with nolva. Personally, I run my PCT's much like the outline in the book "Anabolics 2006". That PCT was developed by Harvard docs who are experts in hormone replacement therapy and recovery from testicular atrophy. I believe it included clomid, nolva, and hcg and the whole process lasts about 6 weeks.

 

[iHulk]

no bro, 250mg Sustanon EVERY DAY, 100mg Tren A EVERYDAY, 100mg Dbol EVERYDAY for 30 days straight...then off

trying to get on, hit it hard, then get off and recover......

I am experimenting with a short cycle, high dosed....so far I am blowing up, but I am holding water, this is only day 5 and I already am seeing a difference....

Bro let me know how you recover from that much Test. I think I'd bloat too much for my liking but like you, I'm experimenting with shorter but greater strength cycles.

 

[iHulk]

Now that's a fucking kick ass cycle right there bro! Very well thought out. How long are you running it?

t'anks blue... Running it for about 5-6 weeks max.

 

[iHulk]

I've used tren many times with no cough, insomnia, or night sweats. Of course, I'm sure I just jinxed myself and will get the said sides this time around, as I'm taking the dose up to 125 mg/day for the first time (actually more like a shade over 100 mg/day). When it comes to sides, unfortunately it's very unpredictable from person to person. For example, many of us (myself included) experience intense anxiety as a major side effect of EQ. With tren, many suffer from hair loss, night sweats, chronic cough, and insomnia. It varies from person to person.

As far s an AI when using tren, it's sort of a misnomer. Tren does not aromatize, but the "gyno" it produces is a result of increased prolactin production (tren is a progestin), and the "lumps" you feel udner your nipples (like the ones I have right now ) are not true gynecomastia. As such, I prefer to use cabergoline when on tren. It's not the cheapest thing in the world, and I only use it when running tren with deca (this is not something I'd necessarily advise at all, just a personal stack - with test and other stuff - that works for me).

My advice would be, when you get around to it, do a simple test/tren cycle with tren acetate at no more than 75 mg EOD. This will allow you to stop it if the sides become unbearable, and it will be out of your system in days. If you use parabolan (tren hex), tren enan, or a blend like Trinabol, you're stuck with the sides for longer periods of time.

Anyway that's just my $.02 If anything here is inaccurate I trust the bro's on here will correct me

EXCELLENT post bro

 

[iHulk]

1. Yes, running ED is far superior to EOD as far as maintaining stable blood levels. Stable blood levels are directly related to sides or lack thereof. There is a post on the board that I can't seem to locate that had a link to a graph depicting the blood levels of tren ace when pinned ED vs EOD. After 3-5 days, the ED dosing schedule leveled off at a stable level, whereas the EOD had a sawtooth pattern with a considerable range.

2. Do not use Nolva with a progestin. Nolva up-regulates progesterone receptors and this is definitely the opposite of what you want when using something like tren, deca, etc. If anything, see if you can get some dostinex or bromocriptine.

3. Tren was designed to improve the QUALITY of muscle in farm animals reared for slaughter. I personally use tren for cutting/contest prep. It allows me to maintain all my LBM when on severe caloric restriction and at the same time makes me very, very strong. It also helps with muscle hardness/density, and vascularity (a byproduct of low bf%).

Hope this helped.

bumping this well thought out response. karma to ya brotha 52_21_30

 

[52_21_30]

Thanks bro!