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Worried about HIV, please help...

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reckre

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Ok, right...

I was orally raped last Friday 4th April. I didn't have a choice but to swallow unfortunately.

Since then, on the Monday I had developed neck ache which is still prominent now, but could have been caused by sleeping funny!? I started reading on the web and it scared me shitless!! Probably the worst thing in the World to do is self diagnose.

Anyway, on Tuesday I seemed to have a burning under my arms which is barely noticeable now (but then this could be down to the fact that I sprayed deoderant on me straight after getting out of the shower which stang like mad!!!)

Anyway, since then I have been worried sick about HIV etc. So worried that I have been struggling to eat and sleep. Now, as of yesterday my tongue is slightly sore with red dots on the tip and sides!! Now I have just started smoking again (for obvious reasons) so this could be related to that.

Problem is I am in a relationship with a long term (6 yrs) gf - I don't want her to know anything, but I have been putting off sleeping with her since I found out. I spoke with local GUM clinic and they tested me for everything except HIV (they said i would have to wait 12 weeks). All tests came back negative.

I am shit scared, and have considered topping myself. I am at the doctors on Monday to discuss things further. I know many people live with HIV, but I couldn't.

I've done a little bit of research on the guy that did it to me, and he is 20 and has only ever participated in oral sex with guys. He has a gf so I guess that makes him bi-sexual.

Anyway, I'm a 24 yr old male who lives a healthy lifestyle and works out. I'm taking a deca, sus and dianabol cycle at the moment and have never had gay sex. Not sure if it's relevant but I live in Yorkshire.

I will get checked out, but can't for near 11 weeks. Am I being incredibly paranoid, or am I in serious trouble? Can you develop symptoms from reading them? I know they say HIV can be passed orally but I can't actually find any instances of this happening?

Please help, I have no idea what to do and am so down right now.
 
the chances of contracting HIV thru oral sex are extremely low, but not non-existant.

i suspect you are feeling paranoid.
 
You need semen/blood exposure for the transmission of HIV, and he would have to have HIV.

It is very difficult to catch HIV through oral sex, one small risk factor would be if you had brushed your teeth before.

The typical seroconversion of HIV is approximately 3 months, and even if you seroconvert to HIV, it doesn't mean you will have any symptoms.

I would worry more about oral gonorhhoea.

If you are concerned and it is affecting you psychologically, then go to a GUMed clinic (anonymous testing).

You will have to wait three months for HIV testing to be accurate.

I think gonorrhoea could be tested for now.
 
I got tested for everything last Tuesday, and the tests came back negative. They took a urine sample and a swab...
 
reckre said:
I got tested for everything last Tuesday, and the tests came back negative. They took a urine sample and a swab...
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Did they swab your throat?

HIV antibodies would not show up for three months.

Also, seriously, HIV is actually quite difficult to catch.
 
Absolutely nothing - it's just the symptoms since and then reading on the net. But are the symptoms too soon anyway?
 
No they didn't swab my throat, I couldn't tell them the whole truth - I'm scared I'd break down in tears. It's easier to type these things you know

It's infuritating i can only post every 10 mintues.
 
reckre said:
Absolutely nothing - it's just the symptoms since and then reading on the net. But are the symptoms too soon anyway?
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Some people can have somatoform disorder..This is where they experience symptoms that are from psychological thought and not the actual disease. I think this sounds more like what you are experiencing.
Honestly I think that you are fine, just scared, worried, and possibly in shock that this has happened to you. As previously stated it is not that contractible therefore I think that you will be fine. However you should by all means under go testing for all of the routine normal std's that are out there.
And as for your girlfriend I think that after 6 years of being with her that you owe it to her to be honest about the situation. I know if this happened I would want to know just so as though I can be at peace of mind and not hear it through a grape vine.
 
reckre said:
No they didn't swab my throat, I couldn't tell them the whole truth - I'm scared I'd break down in tears. It's easier to type these things you know

It's infuritating i can only post every 10 mintues.
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It is ok to be scared and emotionally a mess after these types of ordeals however you should have had a throat swab to be on the safe side. it is no ones business as to the story and it is NO ONES right to cast judgment people are in the medical field to give assistance not to make fun of. In fact I am sure you would feel better talking to someone about it instead of keeping it all in....

As for post time, if you became a platinum member you would be able to post more frequently.
 
reckre said:
Absolutely nothing - it's just the symptoms since and then reading on the net. But are the symptoms too soon anyway?
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Yes for HIV. No for gonorrhoea.

That is not the time frame in which the immune system works.

You need a throat swab for oral/pharyngeal gonorrhoea.

This is just to cover all the possibilities, as you did say you thought you had symptoms that are localised in your throat/neck.


Gonorrhoea is a sexually transmitted infection. Public health workers in the UK are worried that gonorrhoea is on the increase, particularly amongst gay men and younger heterosexual men and women.

Transmission
Gonorrhoea can be passed on during anal, vaginal, oral, and mouth-to-anus (rimming) sex. Gonorrhoea can affect the anus, penis, cervix and throat. Untreated gonorrhoea can make a person with HIV more infectious as gonorrhoea increases the number of HIV-infected cells in the genital area and in the mucous membranes of the mouth and throat. Having gonorrhoea can also make it more likely that an HIV-negative person will be infected if they are exposed to the virus. Gonorrhoea can also be passed on from mother to baby during childbirth, and can cause infection in the baby’s eyes, resulting in blindness if left untreated.

Prevention
Using a condom for anal, oral or vaginal sex is an effective way of avoiding infection with gonorrhoea or passing the bacteria on to somebody else. People who are sexually active are advised to have regular sexual health check-ups, where they will be tested for gonorrhoea and other sexually transmitted infections. Most HIV treatment centres have an associated sexual health clinic, where confidential and free treatment can be obtained without referral from your GP or HIV doctor.

Symptoms
Symptoms of gonorrhoea usually appear between two and ten days after infection. However, some people may not realise they have the infection as symptoms may not always be present, or may be mild. In men, symptoms usually consist of a yellowish or greenish discharge from the penis and burning when passing urine. The testicles may also hurt and swell.

Symptoms in women can include a burning sensation when passing urine and a discoloured or bloody discharge from the vagina. If the infection is rectal, both men and women may notice a mucousy or bloody discharge from the anus, pain in the anus, or pain when having anal sex. Gonorrhoea in the throat can cause a sore throat.

If left untreated, gonorrhoea can cause more serious health problems, including pelvic infections in women resulting in pain, infertility, and ectopic pregnancy, and testicular problems in men.

Gonorrhoea can also spread to the bloodstream leading to fevers, and can affect the joints, causing arthritic-like pain and swelling.

Diagnosis
A general sexual health check-up includes testing for gonorrhoea. Sexual health check-ups are free and confidential and many HIV treatment centres have sexual health clinics attached or may offer a sexual health screen as part of your clinic appointment.

To test for gonorrhoea, a swab is taken from the tip of the penis or from the cervix. If you have told the doctor that you have had oral or anal sex, swabs will also be taken from the throat and/or anus. The swabs can be a little uncomfortable. A urine sample may also be taken. It is usually possible to tell immediately from examination of the swabs if gonorrhoea is present in the penis, and in many cases the cervix, but gonorrhoea in the throat can usually only be diagnosed later. However, whatever the site of infection, it can take up to three days for testing to provide conclusive results. It is important, therefore, to contact your clinic for the result of your test so treatment can be given if the bacteria have been detected.

Treatment
Gonorrhoea is treated with antibiotics. Penicillin or ciprofloxacin used to be the first choice antibiotics to treat gonorrhoea. However, over 10% of gonorrhoea in the UK is now resistant to ciprofloxacin and an even larger amount is penicillin resistant. Because of this, many clinics now use the antibiotics ceftriaxone or spectinomycin as first choice gonorrhoea treatment.
 
reckre said:
Ok, right...

I was orally raped last Friday 4th April. I didn't have a choice but to swallow unfortunately.

Since then, on the Monday I had developed neck ache which is still prominent now, but could have been caused by sleeping funny!? I started reading on the web and it scared me shitless!! Probably the worst thing in the World to do is self diagnose.

Anyway, on Tuesday I seemed to have a burning under my arms which is barely noticeable now (but then this could be down to the fact that I sprayed deoderant on me straight after getting out of the shower which stang like mad!!!)

Anyway, since then I have been worried sick about HIV etc. So worried that I have been struggling to eat and sleep. Now, as of yesterday my tongue is slightly sore with red dots on the tip and sides!! Now I have just started smoking again (for obvious reasons) so this could be related to that.

Problem is I am in a relationship with a long term (6 yrs) gf - I don't want her to know anything, but I have been putting off sleeping with her since I found out. I spoke with local GUM clinic and they tested me for everything except HIV (they said i would have to wait 12 weeks). All tests came back negative.

I am shit scared, and have considered topping myself. I am at the doctors on Monday to discuss things further. I know many people live with HIV, but I couldn't.

I've done a little bit of research on the guy that did it to me, and he is 20 and has only ever participated in oral sex with guys. He has a gf so I guess that makes him bi-sexual.

Anyway, I'm a 24 yr old male who lives a healthy lifestyle and works out. I'm taking a deca, sus and dianabol cycle at the moment and have never had gay sex. Not sure if it's relevant but I live in Yorkshire.

I will get checked out, but can't for near 11 weeks. Am I being incredibly paranoid, or am I in serious trouble? Can you develop symptoms from reading them? I know they say HIV can be passed orally but I can't actually find any instances of this happening?

Please help, I have no idea what to do and am so down right now.
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Don't see your doctor. Google NHS GUMed clinics. They are anonymous and the HIV/STD nurses are usually lovely (I work in a path lab so I have met a lot of them).

Even getting tested for STDs can affect your ability to get life insurance, mortgage etc.

Really unfair and stupid, but that is the level of ignorance at times.
 
reckre said:
Has anyone ever caught HIV orally?
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Yes, there have been a few cases reported.

However considering the millions that have HIV or AIDS, the risk is incredibly low.


REVIEW ARTICLE
Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update

Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228
Abstract
Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and many other viruses can be isolated in blood and body fluids, including saliva, and can be transmitted by genital–genital and especially anal–genital sexual activity. The risk of transmission of HIV via oral sexual practices is very low.

Unlike other mucosal areas of the body, the oral cavity appears to be an extremely uncommon transmission route for HIV. We present a review of available evidence on the oral–genital transmission of HIV and analyse the factors that act to protect oral tissues from infection, thereby reducing the risk of HIV transmission by oral sex. Among these factors we highlight the levels of HIV RNA in saliva, presence of fewer CD4+ target cells, presence of IgA antibodies in saliva, presence of other infections in the oral cavity and the endogenous salivary antiviral factors lysozyme, defensins, thrombospondin and secretory leucocyte protease inhibitor (SLPI).
 
reckre said:
I don't have a sore throat though?

Back of my neck is sore, and tongue and mouth...?
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I am not sure what you mean by the back of your neck.

If you have concerns, get tested, that is the only way to be certain.

I would think it would be worth the reduction in stress to overcome a few moments of embarrassment.

If you think that people who work in HIV clinics would be shocked by your situation, think again.

I am sure they have seen and heard everything.
 
Just an update for everyone - went to the gum clinic today and had an oral swab, and talked to the doctor who was superb and really calmed me down about HIV. Said my mouth was perfectly normal, and my neck ache was muscular tension.

Anyway, all this worry about HIV got me wondering, so I've had a check up anyway. I caught chlamydia when I was younger and worry now about what else could have been passed, although the doctor was re-assuring and said it was highly unlikely and the chances in the UK of catching HIV from an under 25 is 1 in 10,000, where Chlamydia is 1 in 10.

Anyway, results day is the 21st, and its my birthday on the 22nd. I know i'll be really worried until then, but hopefully will be ok
 
OK, I am NOT trying to be insensitive or a jerk. I just want to know... How can you be orally raped? I don't need detail just curious. If some dude was able to get his stuff in my mouth I can GUARANTEE you, he will not be taking it out still connected!!!!

I'll be praying for you!!!
 
I'm sure I was drugged. I was conscious of what was happening, but didnt have any muscular control if that makes any sense whatsoever. I'm not wanting to go into details though, as you can probably appreciate.

As for going to the police, it's hardly something I want to discuss in person with anyone.
 
reckre said:
Just an update for everyone - went to the gum clinic today and had an oral swab, and talked to the doctor who was superb and really calmed me down about HIV. Said my mouth was perfectly normal, and my neck ache was muscular tension.

Anyway, all this worry about HIV got me wondering, so I've had a check up anyway. I caught chlamydia when I was younger and worry now about what else could have been passed, although the doctor was re-assuring and said it was highly unlikely and the chances in the UK of catching HIV from an under 25 is 1 in 10,000, where Chlamydia is 1 in 10.

Anyway, results day is the 21st, and its my birthday on the 22nd. I know i'll be really worried until then, but hopefully will be ok
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Cool, glad to hear it.

Thanks for letting us know what is happening.
 
u cant get hiv threw oral sex its almost impossible its just like sayin u can get it if u sit on a public toilet seat...
 
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Just a brief update - Got initial HIV. Gornohrea (sp?) etc results back today - all negative. Feel very relieved now. GUM clinic were superb in all fairness and very understanding.
 
reckre said:
Just a brief update - Got initial HIV. Gornohrea (sp?) etc results back today - all negative. Feel very relieved now. GUM clinic were superb in all fairness and very understanding.
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glad u r ok :artist:
 
You can't just let him get away man. They all say it is hard to tell in person but if you get this guy locked up and in big trouble, you won't have to worry again. It will help take some stress off big time.
 
rnch said:
the chances of contracting HIV thru oral sex are extremely low, but not non-existant.

i suspect you are feeling paranoid.
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give it some time and be tested again.
 
airsmith2k said:
u cant get hiv threw oral sex its almost impossible its just like sayin u can get it if u sit on a public toilet seat...
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Actually, you can.

It is a low risk case IN MOST CASES. However it still very possible. Sores in your mouth, cavaties, (meth users), tender gums from flossing, in the case of orally rapes you can suffer throat damage, etc..

But it most definately can be transmitted orally.

If you did get it, you wouldn't have had aches and pains that early.

Glad things worked out for you. But be more aware of your surroundings in the future.
 
reckre said:
I'm sure I was drugged.
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Wasn't Flunitrazepam (roofies).....or you wouldn't have remembered much of it.

Probably cyclobenzaprine......it can do a number on your ability to use your muscles while leaving conciousness generally untouched. Pretty easy to get ahold of too. Atleast over here State side.

Nobody probably cares, but I thought it was an interesting case. (No offense)
 
The chances of contracting HIV thru oral sex are extremely low, but not non-existant.

I suspect you are feeling paranoid.
 
what really scares me about this is that you started smoking again.. that will do more harm in the long run than HIV. unless there is more to the story, there is a 99.9 % chance that your fine.. HIV can't live in saliva or outside the body for more than a few seconds. Since you say you were "raped" , i truly hope you reported this to the police , even though it might be embarassing.. it is a crime and needs to be dealt with as such.
(POZ here.. dont worry about it... this is NOT how you get it)
 
bigbraniff said:
what really scares me about this is that you started smoking again.. that will do more harm in the long run than HIV. unless there is more to the story, there is a 99.9 % chance that your fine.. HIV can't live in saliva or outside the body for more than a few seconds. Since you say you were "raped" , i truly hope you reported this to the police , even though it might be embarassing.. it is a crime and needs to be dealt with as such.
(POZ here.. dont worry about it... this is NOT how you get it)
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GREAT post
 
rnch said:
the chances of contracting HIV thru oral sex are extremely low, but not non-existant.

i suspect you are feeling paranoid.
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You need to take some cleansing breaths, pray about it, let it go and wait for the results. Stop self diagnosing, bc no matter what conclusion it brings you to, it won't matter until you have the results.
 
You can't diagnose HIV symptoms immediate after having Oral sex, if you have any doubt of affecting HIV, visit your nearest doctor and take necessary prevention steps.
 
takes 3 months to appear in a test so wait til then also tell the drs what happened and what you fear you my have and you'll get better treatment and advice and HIV cant survive in the stomach only chnace is it got in a cut or olsar very unikely, as for symptoms none for years. AND stop reading the internet about things as it makes it worse ive done some terrible things in my life (havnt swallowed a load yet lol) just take the attitude its happened cant change or go back, fuck it and continue.
 
here's what you do:
1. Cut the guys head off
2. Cut the guys dick off
3. Insert dick into mouth of head
4. Mail head to his family
 
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