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Wisconsin will ruin the push for states rights with this shit.

holy fuck you are an idiot. Do you not intrinsically understand the argument I"m making? I don't condone aborting a child who is nearly 9 months viable, obviously, most people do not. However it's not my nor your call if a woman decides to do that cause it's not our bodies. You may or may not agree with a society exercising that kind of control over someone's personal decision, but for fucks sake at least comprehend the libertarian-esque argument being made. It's not hard. It really isnt'. How baseline stupid do you have to be?

no, I get it just fine. you don't support the idea of abortion but you support the woman's "right" to have the choice. seems legit

the kid also has the right to fucking live
 
Of course you'd be pissed cause the woman is basically saying i don't want to bring your heathen satan spawn into the world so it can devour me whole as soon as it pops out. Would be time to find another willing host for your fiendish seed then no? :coffee:

I've got a kid and another on the way and you've (supposedly) gotten a woman pregnant who proceeded to get an abortion. do you see how stupid you look yet?
 
Yay for states rights so long as it only applies to stuff I agree with!!!

Just an FYI...states' rights =/= libertarian politics.

(FTR, I didn't read any of the second page - sorted by 100 - of this thread. EDIT: And now that I have, I wish I hadn't....)
 
no, I get it just fine. you don't support the idea of abortion but you support the woman's "right" to have the choice. seems legit

the kid also has the right to fucking live


now was that so hard? i bet you took a step back for a second, rubbed two brain cells together and were like "ah ok i get it". I also understand your viewpoint even if I don't agree, but I get where it comes from. That's the division line between the two sides. One side beleives that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is sacrosanct until it encroaches on a deep religious belief of theirs. The other side also believes in the sanctity of personal choice even when that personal choice is not something they agree with, as long as it doesn't hinder someone else's ability to live their lives as they see fit.

I can't argue with you on whether that kid has a right to live or not because it's more of a complex issue. If that was the case than abortion even in cases of rape and incest "MUST" be illegal, but that is one super fucked society that will allow men to procreate with women who haven't given their consent to carry his child. That's a level of evil shit that I have no words for. I know we didn't broach on that subject in this thread but it's the next natural step if we're saying "the kid also has the right to fucking live". It's a very complicated issue. In my opinion you can't tell people what to do with their own bodies but if their choices then ostracize them from society so be it.
 
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