winstrol or boldenone undecylenate

[no1special]

I agree on a little test, if only QV test ( Eth ), 250 to 500mg a week
with a light first round of your EQ, and you will surely get the gains
you are asking for. You may even surprise yourself

Good Luck.

 

[Nucman]

no1special, n1tro your both idiots according to Clean:

nucman is an idiot, you don't need test bro. just like mike and tri~zilla said, EQ rocks.

Boldenone does rock, but I am a believer that all cycles should include at least a little test. Especially with a more anabolic than androgenic aas like bold. Test fills the androgenic component, so to speak.

 

[SushiWarrior]

Eq over winstrol any day. Much cheaper and better results.

 

[italiansavagebeast]

eq sucks for a first cycle ?

my first was an eq only...and it rocked!!!!

I agree as well ... good gains on eq only (for my first cycle)
ran it at 400mg/wk with a small amount of dianobol to further help
protein synthesis (10-15mg/day)... Kept all the results and haven't
been on gear for a while... Next cycle is starting real soon...

 

[hollywood17]

I was curious as to if a just winstrol cycle would help someone who was overweight at 280 Pounds lost weight and if so how much. Obviously with a good diet. etc?

Thanks!!

 

[Breeze]

Why not use both? Winny, eq and test are a great stack.

 

[chaquito]

you are not dumb thats not the reason people laught at your post. i think EVERYONE of us remeber the time we were newbies and ask stupid questions (sorry bro), but back then there wasent. i think i use to belive that ALL the gains from steroids was pure muscle. i use to belive that water retention from steroids was in fact muscle, i didnt know that a high proteinintake is escensial for building muscle when taking steroids. So it may sound a little funny about you goals with this cycle you are planing to do. pure muscle gain of 15 lbs and be extremly ripped, man thats like a dream to come true. unless you are a genetic freak this may be very dificult to achive even with steroids. i think that you can gain muscle while being ripped and achive your "8-pack" but dont expekt that the muscle gains is gonna be as high as 15 lbs. one more thing, the key to muscle gain and lossing fat is not the drug is the diet.

C

 

[bw1]

I am a newbiee

I am a male mid 20's 180 pounds.
I have been working out seriouse for 1.5 years now 4 days a week.

I want to gain 10 to 15 pounds of lean muscle, and want to be extremely ripped. I have a 6 pac now and am hoping for an 8 pac.

Some people I know suggested winstrol or boldenone undecylenate. I was hoping someone could give me info, suggestions to help me out on wich to choose.

Casbarocker, good to see you here asking questions. There are some very helpful bro's here and they can point you in the right direction. Consider this: Before you start your first cycle have bloodwork done to determine your baseline values. Check out this thread http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=334230
This will also help determine how effective your pct is. Which brings us to pct, do you have a plan? If not you need to. Check out the pct forum. Injections, do you know the proper way to inject? and what pins to use? If not www.spotinjections.com can give you some tips. I would start with a single AAS for a first cycle to see how your body responds. Don't go crazy on your first cycle. Do a little research decide what you want to run with pct and post it up. You will get valuable feedback which will help you get it right. Then you will be ready. Make sure your nutrition is on and train hard.

 

[dee_wire]

i agree with n1tro...at least that's been my personal experience.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I love both drugs, but eq is more suited for a beginer who has patience. You will see absolutely nothing the first month you are on it. Run it for 12 weeks or so at 400 mg a week.