Well bud for hardness winny is great if your looking to cut up and get some lean mass ans some strength gains fina is the shit...I jsut started my second cycle and I love it...You can do wither 75mg ED or 75mg EOD whatever you prefer, my last cycle I did it EOD I am going to do it ED to see if the results vary...I ahve done winny before but honestly I like fina A LOT