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Winny inject?
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JoeBlob
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Most painful injections I've ever had. I'll never do it again... Gains were decent but I was real young and dumb so I can't really speak for that. I would just get tabs but if you already have the water based just drink it. You can shoot it first and see how bad the pip is but I'm sure you will just end up drinking it. There are better options out there imo
Leather Neck
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Hurts like a motherfucker, first pin was my delt and it was horrific. Also only compound I ever lost any hair on. Results were fantastic though.
Better options out there IMO. It works, but is more of a hassle than other aas that works just as good
Woot I thought I told you to do ED calf injections and you'll look like brad pitt in fight club
Sweet, I just got some of that actually..I might skip the winny
Leather Neck
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Pinned eod, my glutes took a beating but after pinning my delt there's no way I didn't even want to chance pinning my quads with it. If you can deal with the pip it's the balls
Ya seems like it, I just have a couple vials and thought about adding it but you can't even mix because its water based...so screw it...I guess I won't look like Brad Pitt
Wild thing
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Just started gp stanzanol 50 mg seems pretty good on 3rd injection
There is some good winny out there that has something like lidocane in it. I know its not lido as that shit hurts immediately then numbs. This stuff keeps it numb for a while and it never really gets painfull. My buddy got some and he loves it.
My professional opinion. The transdermal is better absorded through self inflicted sex. Or you could Have Paul M. do it.
The winny inject? Quicker in the taint bro. Get BIG. T
needtogetaas
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Ya I would rank it as the most painful inject I have ever done too. SO painful I stop injecting and started drinking it. These days you can get it in a transdermal ..
I guess the "can you drink winny" question is so old it's been forgotten.
True, injecting would be preferable over a liver toxic 17AA drug but if the PIP is that bad and you can just drink it and its all the same then thats what I would do if it were me.
SMH. I remember Ret and I talking about Stan. Susp. at 150mg/day. Never had any concerns about freeking liver toxicity levels etc. At the doses your gonna be at. Your liver idnt even going to know it. Some people try to come across as Doctors. Go on experience. I know it was gave to ya. Dont know how much you have. Just next time get tabs and do away with the curiosity of what to do. Common sense. T
Like i said before it was free, and drinking it would be the same toxic as taking pills so common sense to me would be shooting it. Liver toxicity is something I don't like to fuck around with...I've had bad liver pain with Var. Everyone's body is different
ballslee
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Dude i would try shooting it.
split up the shots though. don't take any other injects with it.
my problem was taking prop in the same shot with it. once I split the shots up, it was ten million times better to handle.
I would not do shoulders at all. But it really was not terrible (and mine was not the best quality either)
if you have good winny and the crystals are small or even non-existent then it shouldn't hurt too bad.
just try one shot in the glutes and see how it is....
it is definitely a different experience than taking the pills....it was much, much better results wise for me and not as harsh on joints either.
split up the shots though. don't take any other injects with it.
my problem was taking prop in the same shot with it. once I split the shots up, it was ten million times better to handle.
I would not do shoulders at all. But it really was not terrible (and mine was not the best quality either)
if you have good winny and the crystals are small or even non-existent then it shouldn't hurt too bad.
just try one shot in the glutes and see how it is....
it is definitely a different experience than taking the pills....it was much, much better results wise for me and not as harsh on joints either.
Wild thing
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This Gp stanzanol isn't to bad I think test suspension hurt more than winny that's just me anyone ever tryd suspension what do you think was worse
Injecting it wouldn't make much of a difference. It's still a 17AA and it still passes through the liver. A little more slowly , that's about it.
ballslee
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when taken orally it takes 2 passes through the liver. when taken IM it only takes 1 pass through the liver.
This is why IM is preferable, and less liver toxic. So yes, it does make a huge difference.
also, taken IM only needs to be dosed EOD rather than ED with the oral pills. THAT, combined with 1 less pass through the liver, make it extremely less liver toxic when taken IM.
To me, it offers different effects. Way better nitrogen retention, none of the dreaded back pumps, a different kind of Cut (anavar and winny have different kinds of shred....well i find it is different when taken IM vs. Orally)
so like i said, try it out. because you may seriously like it much better.
Gorilla-Pharma
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I've done water based winny, not a problem bro. I did 50mg ed.....but in time switched to 100 eod. Pain is for weak..and people I inflict it on of course.
Woot, the hormone will enter the blood stream and pass through the liver anyways. Whether via injection, or ingestion and uptake through the small intestine, it doesn't matter. Roughly the same amount will enter the liver prior to being bound.
17AA just don't get destroyed in the stomach like non methylated hormone structures.
17AA just don't get destroyed in the stomach like non methylated hormone structures.
ballslee
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dude, it passes through twice if it is taken orally. much less of it is absorbed that way (mg for mg) which is why you take 50mg ED of oral winstrol.
injected it passes through once because it is put straight into the blood stream. more is absorbed and much more effeciently, which is why you then only need 50mg EOD injection wise
Lol, bro-ology at its finest.
My man, things pass through the liver multiple times. It's just blood flow. The liver breaks things down, 17AA protects the integrity of the molecule on the first pass(and helps it survive the stomach which is extremely hostile), giving the possibility of an intact hormone to be bound to an androgen receptor (or however the hormone is utilized) to be much greater. Second pass, it breaks down more to where the structure is unusable, third and additional passes even further into metabolites (detectable in piss tests) etc. etc. In fact, sometimes they pass through unscathed.
Injectable is advantageous because it doesnt enter the stomach.
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ALIN
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For me oral and injectable worked very similar in terms of overall results
ballslee
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that is what I was saying....its not bro-ology at its finest there is research to support it. and you just said it yourself "injectable is advantageous because it doens't enter the stomach"
entering the stomach causes the chemical to go through the liver which cleaves the 17-AA molecule away and then sends it to the bloodstream and at that point the winstrol is then filtered thru the liver a 2nd time before it becomes active. injectable skips that first pass of the liver.....because it doesn't go thru the stomach.......and therefore does not pass thru the liver as many times....which leaves more active molecule in the bloodstream than orally.
like your post literally backed up what I was saying. how can you say its bro-ology?
Here is an article that says the exact same thing:
Winstrol - Oral versus Injectable (More Different Than You Think!)
-note where it states different effects from injectable to oral....more nitrogen retention and muscle building ability in the injectable, vs a better synergy with other drugs when taken orally.
if you want some more studies, please be sure to let me know.
Gorilla-Pharma
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Shit is getting real deep in here. Let's play nice boys..
I think I am going to try some injectable winny.
Gorilla-Pharma
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I am going to try winny oil base this go round.
Gorilla-Pharma
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ballslee
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nope not at all
its fine. debate all you want guys just keep it nice.
all i can tell you is i drank my winny at 50mg a day.. i'm talking real pharm grade winny.. not UG bathtub shit that guys take 100mg of and wonder whats going on. anyway at 50mg a day i was losing hair like crazy, had to drop that shit to 25mg and could only stand it for 3 weeks. so whether you inject or drink i don't see how it would make a difference if i had to stop it at 3 weeks drinking. if it makes a difference i would of hated to see how much hair i lost injecting.
btw that was the first time i ever lost hair .. not like i am prone to shedding.
so i think these studies and opinions are guys who use ug crap vs. guys who use the real thing. same reason i hear guys running 2grams of test a week when 500mg a week for me is more than ample
all i can tell you is i drank my winny at 50mg a day.. i'm talking real pharm grade winny.. not UG bathtub shit that guys take 100mg of and wonder whats going on. anyway at 50mg a day i was losing hair like crazy, had to drop that shit to 25mg and could only stand it for 3 weeks. so whether you inject or drink i don't see how it would make a difference if i had to stop it at 3 weeks drinking. if it makes a difference i would of hated to see how much hair i lost injecting.
btw that was the first time i ever lost hair .. not like i am prone to shedding.
so i think these studies and opinions are guys who use ug crap vs. guys who use the real thing. same reason i hear guys running 2grams of test a week when 500mg a week for me is more than ample
ballslee
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yep winny is moreso of a DHT than most other of the DHT-based AAS. so that could be why.
I haven't had this problem with any AAS. my hair just stops growing around the bald patch area or gets a little thinner. i just get on that mane and tail and I am good to go. and when I stop taking it, it goes right back to normal.
I have found that inject was better on the hairline tho. but i only tried it once, and i haven't gone bald at all on anything so it would be harder to tell.
I have tried all different types of winny tho. It is the most prevalent of all AAS in my area (everyone wanting to get all ripped up for Spring Break and crap) and it is definitely my second favorite to test. But i am cautious about using it only for my joints sake. My favorite time with it was while using deca....because my joints felt phenomenal and I cut out all the water with winny.
an NPP/winny cycle is definitely going to be my next cycle.
but ya some peoples bodies just react differently than others. at least you listened to yours and dropped the winny. although i bet it sucked getting all that winny and then not even using it.
What's the maximum mg of winny you would run per day for four weeks injectable if you were 230lbs and I could careless about my hair.
I wonder what 75mg per day would do?
