winny cycle

[bobby716]

whats goin on guys

just got done with the lipo/amp stack it was by far best supp i have tried up to date. now im looking for something more serious for the summer. I have been doing a lot of research and was thinking about getting:

anabolic xtremes perfect cycle for my liver and start taking that about 3 days prior to the winny

2 tab serving sizeN-Acetyl-Cysteine 1000mg
Milk Thistle (80% standardized provides 480 mg Silymarin) 600mg
R[+]-Alpha Lipoic Acid 200mg




100 10mg oral winnys taking 2 every other day for the first 2 weeks then bumping it up to 3 EOD (or would you recommend an everyday regime?)

and then AX's PCT starting the last week of the winny cycle at one tab daily

AX Proprietary blend - 135mg
(Avena Sativa Extract 20:1, Agaricus bisporus extract., 6-acetoxy-3-hydroxy-17-keto-etioallocholane, 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene, Condensed Agaricus bisporus extract)


This is the first cycle I have put together myself. The first one my friend put together for me and it did more harm than good. Im 21 years old 5'10 205lbs roughly 13%bf diet on point just looking for that little push to get me going above and beyond .. any help/ suggestions will be greatly appreciated

thanks

 

[bobby716]

anyone??

i need to start somewhere?? any help???

good??badd??critics??

 

[splperformance]

well personally i still think you are a little young for juice...but on that note, you've already done a cycle before so it really doesn't matter what we say to steer you away from doing it...

as far as winny goes, 20mg or even 30mg eod or even ED for that matter isn't gonna really do a damn thing for you...winny needs to be done atleast 50mg ED atleast 6 weeks for best results and preferrably stacked with some form of test at 250mg-500mg EW

just my opinion but if you're going to do a cycle, man up and do a real stacked cycle (ie. test/eq/winny....something like that) and avoid orals if at all possible

 

[GUARDIAN]

i think it would be a waste of winny. stack it and up the dose to 50mg ed.

 

[bobby716]

thanks guys .. i wanted to add clen as well would a winny/clen/test do the job with the AX perfect cycle and AX PCT

 

[sweed]

Do you like needles??
test at 500mgs is a better cycle. injecting every mon and thursday. This will be way better than a winny cycle imo.
read up on the pct stickies at the top of the page

 

[splperformance]

thanks guys .. i wanted to add clen as well would a winny/clen/test do the job with the AX perfect cycle and AX PCT

i'm not a big fan of clen on cycle...raises the heart rate way too much for most people and too many jitters at certain doses...personally i would do test 500mg EW for 10-12 weeks and winny 50mg ED for the last 6-8 weeks...once pct is done, jump on some clen and L-taurine and pound the cardio to lean up nice and tight...just my 2 cents

and read the PCT stickies

 

[tdidd42]

i'm not a big fan of clen on cycle...raises the heart rate way too much for most people and too many jitters at certain doses...personally i would do test 500mg EW for 10-12 weeks and winny 50mg ED for the last 6-8 weeks...once pct is done, jump on some clen and L-taurine and pound the cardio to lean up nice and tight...just my 2 cents

and read the PCT stickies

what are your goals?? a think a winny cycle is fine if your goals are lean muscle and drop SOME bf. if you are looking for size as well through in some test and or deca. one of my best cycles was deca and winny. but i agree you are a bit young

 

[bobby716]

thanks for all the feed back guys .. I am reaading up on the PCT's the only reason I say the AX ones is because those are the ones I use before and they seemed to do the job .. as for my goals I am trying to harden up maybe gain a little size and drop about 3-4 % bf .. please keep it coming .. i have done the research and just want others opinions/advice becasue i want to be very thorough with this sysle as my last one was basically disasterous

thanks!

 

[bobby716]

i just got through looking threw the PCT sticky and did some research on the internet for prices and reviews/efficiency of the products .. all good reviews and definatly work but with the gear and anti-e, h.C.G, EndoAmp, sustain alpha, TOCO8, and Nolva its close to a grand .. any way to run test and winny safely but a little cheaper ??

 

[GUARDIAN]

i just got through looking threw the PCT sticky and did some research on the internet for prices and reviews/efficiency of the products .. all good reviews and definatly work but with the gear and anti-e, h.C.G, EndoAmp, sustain alpha, TOCO8, and Nolva its close to a grand .. any way to run test and winny safely but a little cheaper ??

using aas properly is not cheap. dont take short cuts in an effort to cut costs. it could cost u more in the end.

 

[splperformance]

using aas properly is not cheap. dont take short cuts in an effort to cut costs. it could cost u more in the end.

+1...there is nothing cheap about gear and you basically get what you pay for...good products = good results...shitty products = shitty results and wasted money down the tube

 

[bobby716]

I definatly don't mind spending the money as long as they are all useful and will yield satisfying results .. do you think all those supps are a definite .. for the mean time i was thinking about just trying to get my hands on one or two shots of test/deca just to get the feel for it and then do a legit cycle closer to july .. would that be feasable?

 

[rage_roid]

you only really need nolva or clomid + HCG for your PCT... all the other stuff will help... but with the basic stuff you should be fine...

 

[GUARDIAN]

I definatly don't mind spending the money as long as they are all useful and will yield satisfying results .. do you think all those supps are a definite .. for the mean time i was thinking about just trying to get my hands on one or two shots of test/deca just to get the feel for it and then do a legit cycle closer to july .. would that be feasable?

i cant comment about the other OTC stuff bc i have never tried it.

but with regards to hcg, AI's, SERM's, needles, gear what i meant was u dont want to not get an AI for example when running test or clomid/nolva/or hcg or pct etc.

 

[rage_roid]

I definatly don't mind spending the money as long as they are all useful and will yield satisfying results .. do you think all those supps are a definite .. for the mean time i was thinking about just trying to get my hands on one or two shots of test/deca just to get the feel for it and then do a legit cycle closer to july .. would that be feasable?

What? that its not going to do anything... may be feel a little hornier, no more than that...