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my buddy took qv deca and ran into a high liver count. HE wants to how the 50mg bd winy tabs wiil treat his liver.
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win tabs affect on liver?
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DieselGunz
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i would assume harder being winny is a oral and 17AA
Tux
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Winny is 17aa and obviously harder on the liver than deca. Deca should have almost no effect on the liver. If his liver values are elevated, but not above normal by more than a few points, it's probably just due to the increase in creatine kinase, an enzyme released by muscle cells in response to damage. When you work out hard, especially on gear, you damage your muscles constantly, so those levels are nearly always elevated. If his values are way above normal on deca alone, either it's not deca or he's got some other problem that needs to be checked on soon.
darwinmcduck
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we feel that it was not deca. thats why i think that we are comparing apples to crate engines. i think the winny would be easier on the liver than whatever the substance he was takin.
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darwinmcduck said:
Doubt that. Deca isnt known to automatically increase liver values, a 17aa liver toxic steroid like Winstrol IS ! If I had even a little elevated liver values, I would run from orals.
Tux
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Yes, but most 17aa compounds are almost totally insoluble in oil, that's why you never see human or even vet versions of test base or winny in oil. Do you know what the bottle said and looked like? When did you get it? If it was after QV was busted, perhaps you could have gotten a fake that contained dbol, dbol can be made injectable and would account for the liver values. Still, people don't usually fake deca with inj. dbol, they'd just fake it with test enth or cyp since those are the cheapest.
