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I replied to your PM Carth, hopefully it helps.
Just to get some of my thoughts public, I believe that there is something else going on that is preventing you from feeling right. This might not even be related to sex hormones. If your metabolism is downregulating due to other factors (cortisol, thyroid) imagine how many other processes are affected. Neurological function is just ONE of them and this could be a huge reason for problems with libido and plenty of other things in general.
If you are convinced you can't come off TRT via a restart, definitely look into adrenals and pregnenolone. A lot of this could be psychological as well. High testosterone levels are very appealing psychologically and coming off cycle and having mid range T is looked at as a bummer. I told myself that even if my natural test is in the low-medium range that I'm going to stay off TRT for long enough to determine if other things start to fall into place. If I want high T I will cycle for short periods of time. Unless my test falls into the 100s, I'm done with year round TRT.
I am personally convinced that being on exogenous testosterone for too long is affecting our ability to convert pregnenolone from cholesterol. This affects sex hormones and stress hormones. We need LH/FSH in order to create this building block for a huge cascade of reactions. This might not be true for all men, but probably for some of us. Sure we can attempt to support pregnenolone reserves by using transdermal creams or oral supplementation, but who knows how effective that is (labs don't show an increase in preg from transdermals).
Either way, to confirm this, get your cortisol and pregnenolone levels checked bro. Then decide what to do from there.
One other thing you can do in the meantime, take your temperature a couple of times throughout the day (and the next couple of days) and post up your average. Do this while NOT being on any stimulants like adderall, etc. That is one way of determining metabolic function. If your temperature is low your metabolism is off and this is probably creating problems all over your body. The next step would be to find out why and I'm willing to bet the key lies in pregnenolone and cortisol.
If this is true then this is probably the reason so many people on extended cycles / TRT are suddenly left to deal with new health issues down the road.
Just to get some of my thoughts public, I believe that there is something else going on that is preventing you from feeling right. This might not even be related to sex hormones. If your metabolism is downregulating due to other factors (cortisol, thyroid) imagine how many other processes are affected. Neurological function is just ONE of them and this could be a huge reason for problems with libido and plenty of other things in general.
If you are convinced you can't come off TRT via a restart, definitely look into adrenals and pregnenolone. A lot of this could be psychological as well. High testosterone levels are very appealing psychologically and coming off cycle and having mid range T is looked at as a bummer. I told myself that even if my natural test is in the low-medium range that I'm going to stay off TRT for long enough to determine if other things start to fall into place. If I want high T I will cycle for short periods of time. Unless my test falls into the 100s, I'm done with year round TRT.
I am personally convinced that being on exogenous testosterone for too long is affecting our ability to convert pregnenolone from cholesterol. This affects sex hormones and stress hormones. We need LH/FSH in order to create this building block for a huge cascade of reactions. This might not be true for all men, but probably for some of us. Sure we can attempt to support pregnenolone reserves by using transdermal creams or oral supplementation, but who knows how effective that is (labs don't show an increase in preg from transdermals).
Either way, to confirm this, get your cortisol and pregnenolone levels checked bro. Then decide what to do from there.
One other thing you can do in the meantime, take your temperature a couple of times throughout the day (and the next couple of days) and post up your average. Do this while NOT being on any stimulants like adderall, etc. That is one way of determining metabolic function. If your temperature is low your metabolism is off and this is probably creating problems all over your body. The next step would be to find out why and I'm willing to bet the key lies in pregnenolone and cortisol.
If this is true then this is probably the reason so many people on extended cycles / TRT are suddenly left to deal with new health issues down the road.
