Will he get results from this?

[Smokescreen]

A friend of mine that lives down the street from me has never done gear before. He wanted to know if taking 250mgs of both Test/DECA will give him any results?

He has a bottle of QV Test E and 10 amps of Deca at 250mg. 10 weeks of this stuff good enough? Should he have nolva on hand just in case? Should he take Dostinex with the Deca? Most importantly, should he take HCG during this 10 week cycle?

What about PCT? Heavy PCT or Light?

 

[jbradley2093]

I personally think that 250 / 250 test/deca is enough for a first cycle. I highly doubt he would have any gyno problems at that dose, but I would ALWAYS have nolva on hand. As for PCT, the clomid 300/100/50 3 week therapy cycle is plenty IMO.

 

[Mr. Black]

Dostinex->Yes, 0.5mg e4d
Nolva-> On hand just in case
PCT-> Go heavy or go home
HCG->Yes, 5ooiu's twice a week

10 Weeks should be fine. He should have some pretty decent gains if diet is in check.

 

[Smokescreen]

HCG during?

 

[Smokescreen]

Cool thanks!

 

[Mr. Black]

HCG during?

Yep, 500iu twice a week right till cessation of cycle.

 

[jbradley2093]

HCG during?

Persoanlly I would not.. Many others might disagree

 

[Macronne]

IMO for a first time user, he dont need to stack. 500mg of test is enough, for 10 weeks

HCG can be taken at 500 I.U during the course to reduce the shringage, and PCT is important after the course

 

[Mr. Black]

Persoanlly I would not.. Many others might disagree

Why wouldn't you? keeping the balls nice 'n chunky throughout the cycle will help get endogeneous test levels back quicker once PCT starts.

 

[jbradley2093]

I guess I should not say "I wouldn't" I should say I think it is unneccessary for that cycle.

Just my opinion

 

[SuperDawgy]

At 250/250 i wouldn't bother with HCG during. Clomid 300/100/50 after. If it's his first cycle, hell yeah he'll grow. Keep the protein high and carbs clean but moderately high.

 

[jbradley2093]

At 250/250 i wouldn't bother with HCG during. Clomid 300/100/50 after. If it's his first cycle, hell yeah he'll grow. Keep the protein high and carbs clean but moderately high.

Could'nt have said it better myself

 

[wnt2bBeast]

a first cycle should be test only..find out how the body reacts to to this first since test is the base of any good cycle..

second the dose is too low 4-500 mg of test is needed..and a min of 300mg of deca..and test should be run longer than deca..

but i would recco test only

 

[SuperDawgy]

a first cycle should be test only..find out how the body reacts to to this first since test is the base of any good cycle..

second the dose is too low 4-500 mg of test is needed..and a min of 300mg of deca..and test should be run longer than deca..

but i would recco test only

I usually agree with Beast but i know too many guys that have run a 250/250 or even a 250/200 test deca stack for their first time out and have had great results.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I usually agree with Beast but i know too many guys that have run a 250/250 or even a 250/200 test deca stack for their first time out and have had great results.

ok..what happens when they double those doses so now the cycle is 500 test/500deca..now on this cycle they start to get itchy nips well is it from the deca or test??? yes you can treat each pathway to gyno but i would rather know that i get gyno symptoms when i go above 750 or i get it from the deca when i go above 600..

 

[SuperDawgy]

ok..what happens when they double those doses so now the cycle is 500 test/500deca..now on this cycle they start to get itchy nips well is it from the deca or test??? yes you can treat each pathway to gyno but i would rather know that i get gyno symptoms when i go above 750 or i get it from the deca when i go above 600..

True, but we are talking about a first cycle and odds are they wont run test/deca back to back. I see your point though. Good stuff.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

at those low doses 250 each i wouldnt expect much if any sides..but i was saying a few months from now when he wants to run this again but at higher doses theres greater potential for those sides..then how do you differentiate..

 

[hammertime30]

Why wouldn't you? keeping the balls nice 'n chunky throughout the cycle will help get endogeneous test levels back quicker once PCT starts.

Bro...I would start your avatar on nolva as quickly as possible...It's looks like major gyno to me!!! Say 150mg every 3 hours!

 

[Triple J]

even thought the doses are low at 250/250 if you run the HCG you can get some sharp estrogen spikes so be careful

 

[yomama]

A friend of mine that lives down the street from me has never done gear before. He wanted to know if taking 250mgs of both Test/DECA will give him any results?

He has a bottle of QV Test E and 10 amps of Deca at 250mg. 10 weeks of this stuff good enough? Should he have nolva on hand just in case? Should he take Dostinex with the Deca? Most importantly, should he take HCG during this 10 week cycle?

What about PCT? Heavy PCT or Light?

My first cycle was going from 174lbs. 200mg deca per week, 250mg omnadren per week, and I went heavy on the dbols. I did do HCG, 1000iu per week for three weeks. But that's it, my strength stayed the same, after 3months I was at 195.

 

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I don't see anything wrong with using two compounds for his first cycle, considering they both are low on the dosage.

 

[Swoolen_Puppy]

My first cycle was going from 174lbs. 200mg deca per week, 250mg omnadren per week, and I went heavy on the dbols. I did do HCG, 1000iu per week for three weeks. But that's it, my strength stayed the same, after 3months I was at 195.

Did you see any water retention?
S_P

 

[yomama]

Did you see any water retention?
S_P

From dbol yes, I was up 1lb per day (water) dont remember when I stopped, but everyone seemed to notice I was up over 30lbs in less than 6weeks. I got my water from Dbols, I was taking one pill every 3hrs, then one before workout and after, go figure, I didnt count. I think I used about 260pills in a 8 week cycle. But the thing is, 20lbs of all that I kept.

 

[BionicBC]

Why wouldn't you? keeping the balls nice 'n chunky throughout the cycle will help get endogeneous test levels back quicker once PCT starts.

Nice n Chunky... Great choice of words... K for you.
Bionic