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Why the F*** am I shedding like crazy?

Izzman

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If it keeps at this rate (handfuls of hair in the shower, hair in the sink after brushing, strands on the pillow and etc), I will be bald before the cycle's end! Just last sunday I started a Deca (400mg EW)/Eq (400mg EW)/Dbol stack, with the deca and EQ @ 800mg each frontloaded for the first week and the dbol @ 25mg ED (and NO, I dont shed on dbol have used in the past with no shedding! As well as EQ and Deca, so I dont know WTF is going on!) Currently my hair regimen consists of dutasteride .5mg ED as well Nioxin/Nizoral 2% alternated throughout the week with minoxodil/alez. acid 5% in the morning and Xandrox 20% at night applied with spironactolone 5%. 2-3 times throughout the week I apply folligen before bed. Now this is the thing, I am fully aware of the Deca & Finasteride/Dutasteride issue, so even though I didn't want to use test in this cycle I threw in a small dose yesterday morning to see if thats where the shedding is coming from and if that could stop it but it seems that it didn't help. I really don't know whats going on here, I have never shed like this in awhile on cycle, could this be due to the high doses I frontloaded with? Will this go away if I lower my dose maybe? Or is this strictly due to sudden hormonal fluctuations (Telogen Effuvium)? Please guys, I need all the feedback I can get, if the shedding doesn't stop later in the week I will drop the deca or possibly stop the entire cycle all together. I have lost more hair in the last 5 days than I have in the last year!
 
There are a number of theories out there that suggest that Dustasteride and finasteride convert Deca into a hairstripper.
 
riverrock said:
There are a number of theories out there that suggest that Dustasteride and finasteride convert Deca into a hairstripper.

Thats the thing I have used Deca (NPP) in the past with finasteride with no such problem, I dont see why its different this time around, maybe my doses are too high?
 
About a year ago I was noticing nasty thinning in my front hairline so I started using Avodart at .5 ED while running 2 Sust only cycles in that time. My hair, not only started to fill in at the top again, but in the temples as well. But when I started my first Winny, Deca, Sust and Provrinum cycle, my shower drain began getting plugged up by little gobs of hair. I still finished the cycle, but I am now on damage control by continueing the Avodart while adding Minoxidil and Nizoral shampoo. So it looks like its going to be Test only for me from here on out.
 
I just sudenly started shedding for the first time in my life on tren/prop/deca.I have never shed from anything before and I have a feeling the sheding is due to the heavy doses I did at the begining of the cycle also.
 
Cmon bros, lets keep these responses coming! Hey Gymrat, are you prone to MPB? Do you run anything year round to protect your hair? Also Boardlizard, after that cycle with the winny, deca, sust and proviron, (bad, bad choice! lol) did you notice some regrowth upon stopping?
 
Never had to run anything before and never shed before either.I guess I am prone to mpd because my hairline has been kinda receding since the day I was born.I just noticed the other day I was shedding when i was taning and noticed about 10-12 hairs fell from my head and have noticed the same amount falling daily since so I am going to definetly lower the dosage or posibly drop the cycle short since they are short esters.Not worth being bald to get huge imo.I have plenty of time ahead of me to get big but if I lose the hair there is no getting it back and I am terrified of any kind of surgical procedure so not willing to endure a hair transplant for a few vanity lbs.
 
Izzman said:
Cmon bros, lets keep these responses coming! Hey Gymrat, are you prone to MPB? Do you run anything year round to protect your hair? Also Boardlizard, after that cycle with the winny, deca, sust and proviron, (bad, bad choice! lol) did you notice some regrowth upon stopping?

Yeah, bad, bad choice for the hair. But the cuts and strength gains were/are great. Its to soon tell as far as regrowth since the cycle only ended 2 weeks ago......
 
Why would throwin in test help? If anything, it would make it worse. Sounds like you are using everything in the book to combat your hair loss. Too much treatment may be having a reverse synergistic effect which is causing your hair to fall out. First of all, test is the only steroid that converts to DHT, so there's really no point in using dutasteride with the stack you have; if anything it's making it worse IMO. I would combat one effect with one effect. You are combatting one effect with like 5 causing an imbalance of treatment. Mind body connection my friend. There's probably not much you can do now that it's been accelerated. I would back off on a couple things and maybe lower your doses, but that's just me.
 
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