why not over 60min.?????

[tay1506]

Ive heard everyone say not to work out more than 60min. however ive really never heard a good answer as to why not?? I know that your testosterone starts dramatically decreasing levels after 45 min but why is that a reason to stop???? I just figured thats how i should do it until i came across a couple of strong man lifting sights and after reading some i realized they work out a hell of alot 2+ hours and those guys are strong! I also used to work out 3+ hours a day and made some great gains in a short amount of time plus i could tell my test levels were out the roof. So i would be greatful if someone can please clarify this or atleast send me to a sight that will. I have googled it and looked around some, but no such luck.

Thanks alot!!!!

 

[djeclipse]

Don't believe everything you hear.

 

[mm107]

Don't believe everything you hear.

i second that one...

 

[samsonov]

shit if this is true i'm in trouble. for the last while most of my workouts have been 2-3 hours each.

 

[dce2956]

Saying that a decrese in test levels is a reason to stop lifting would be like saying a decrease in muscle glycogen stores is a reason to stop lifting. It's not a problem, its just what happens. The body then compensates, heals, and you move on.

 

[blut wump]

If it bothers you that the balance has moved slightly towards catabolism then take some BCAAs to the gym with you. They can help shift it back, apparently.

 

[silver_shadow]

here's what i've heard: it's not the testosterone levels that drop. the body starts becoming more catabolic after 45 mins - 60 mins. again this is what i've heard, not sure how true. assuming that to be true then the only way i can explain strongman training is like this: i'd imagine that they eat a huge amount of food (carbs included) and sip a good amount of gatorade or whatever during workouts to prevent their bodies from going into that catabolic state. additionally, they've probably, over a period of time been able to push the envelope to such a level that they can work out 2-3 hrs. there are a few strongmen here, scotsmen and b_fold come to mind, and hopefully they could throw some light on this one.

 

[blut wump]

It's accepted as true that you slip ever more catabolic as time passes in the gym. However, you are about to spend 48 hours recovering before you do it again. It's not as though you'll burn off a half pound of muscle by putting in another hour or so. Get your PWO drinks down you and eat shortly later and put the whole thing out of your mind.

 

[silver_shadow]

It's accepted as true that you slip ever more catabolic as time passes in the gym. However, you are about to spend 48 hours recovering before you do it again. It's not as though you'll burn off a half pound of muscle by putting in another hour or so. Get your PWO drinks down you and eat shortly later and put the whole thing out of your mind.

it helps to eat enough 30-45 mins before you hit the gym too.

 

[nelmsjer]

it helps to eat enough 30-45 mins before you hit the gym too.

not on squat day...

Wait...they are ALL squat days.

 

[blut wump]

It helps if you don't use a belt. Bunching myself up for barbell rows plays havoc with my insides and can sometimes clear the area.

 

[Tweakle]

If you're a typical gym go-er and taking 2 mins rest between sets because you read in muscle and fitness that it's the best way to stay pumped and keep your No2 working then 60 mins is a good number

if you lift heavy, chances are you'll do 30 mins warming up, and take 5-10+ mins rest between sets and that can lead to some long workouts

 

[djeclipse]

It helps if you don't use a belt. Bunching myself up for barbell rows plays havoc with my insides and can sometimes clear the area.

lol, I sometines have that problem, on heavy rows the last few reps am afraid of "letting loose".

This is part of the 10% madcow always talks about, stop focousing on the 10% and worry about the 90%.

 

[tay1506]

i was just reading the wsb articles and thats what louie says and i posted on here i worked out 2+ hours and everyone said how i shouldent and its not good also most of those strong men drink milk and stuff like that while working out which kinda sounds painful

 

[samsonov]

If it bothers you that the balance has moved slightly towards catabolism then take some BCAAs to the gym with you. They can help shift it back, apparently.

BCAA'S??????

 

[samsonov]

It's accepted as true that you slip ever more catabolic as time passes in the gym. However, you are about to spend 48 hours recovering before you do it again. It's not as though you'll burn off a half pound of muscle by putting in another hour or so. Get your PWO drinks down you and eat shortly later and put the whole thing out of your mind.

hey whats a pwo drink. i'm not used to these terms. i do alot of 3 hour work outs. i'm getting good strength gains but not gaining much weight, or cut.

 

[tay1506]

just drink a gallon of milk while running and ull be fine =)

 

[blut wump]

BCAA - Branch Chain Amino Acids. This was mentioned almost tongue-in-cheek. They, apparently, can help to shift away from catabolism. Recommended, for maximal absorption, to take with some B-vitamin or other, I think B6 but best to check for yourself.

PWO - post workout. A PWO shake can give you some quick food to bridge you until you get home for some real tucker. There are few things as anabolic as food and getting some whey and dextrose down yourself after a workout is recommended by many as a great window of opportunity to consume and have the body gobble it all up.

I've seen entire PWO regimens of timings to sip your creatine, glutamine, BCAA's then a little later have your whey and dextrose and then a little later have a meal. I've little reason to doubt that there's good evidence to suggest that this can maximise your nutrient flow but you can't go far wrong just by ensuring that you get a decent meal down yourself within an hour or so of a good workout and leave the rest to days when you feel like pandering yourself.

I often take a drink into the gym with me of dextrose, glutamine and BCAA's or HMB just to sip as I get near to the end of my workout. The dextrose can give you that little extra energy to make the last few sets seems less arduous. Equally, I often don't bother and just get myself home for some eggs on toast with a pint or so of milk. I haven't noticed much difference between the two.