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Why No S.P.R.M.'s in BB'ing?

nydj66

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A lot of attention is paid to estrogen when on a steroid cycle and often a S.E.R.M. (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) is used to combat gyno or for PCT.

Well, two anabolic compounds we often use (nandrolone and trenbolone) are both progestins that can cause or aggrevate gyno through stimulation of the progesterone receptors. Stimulation of the progesterone receptors also leads to an increase in prolactin which causes lactation, saps sex drive and prolongs recovery post-cycle. A dopamine agonist (such as bromocryptine, cabergoline, or selegiline) is usually suggested as an adjuct to a nandrolone or trenbolone cycle to reduce prolactin.

However, Selective Progesterone Receptor Modulators do exist and could be used to block progesterone receptors to combat gyno and prevent the increase in prolactin from occuring in the first place.

Asoprisnil is a SPRM that is used in the treatment of breast cancer that should be great at combatting progesterone gyno.

Additionally, Mifepristone (the morning after pill which is a 19 nor testosterone derivative) is a competitive progesterone receptor antagonist which will block progesterone receptors and combat the side effects of nandrolone and trenbolone.

And since progestins and prolactin will delay recovery of the HPTA, these compounds should be beneficial in PCT as well.

Is this an idea whose time has just not yet come or are there valid reasons why these drugs have not caught on in our world?
 
I have about 500 morning after pills laying around, Before the damn bitch got on the pill, oh that was hectic

Neat Thread bro..
 
Very good point and one that I've addressed several times. It's amazing how so many people STILL do not realize that all the anti e's in the world won't do a thing against progesterone -- the culprit behind Deccas nasty side effects.

I would consider the drugs you mentioned as viable -- if this were 1990 and guys like Duchaine were leading the field in experiemntation. But I think today, there's a better way.

The first thing to realize is that no tests with these drugs have been done on men. Right off the bat, I'm not crazy about that. I think it's why it took so long to figure out why men were having problems with Clomid and Nolva.

Secondly, some of the existing side effects include, nausea, fainting, hemoraging and potential for cancer. Wonderful. Just what we need.

Thirdly, I think we're in a renaissance of sorts rethinking the use of drugs and natural compounds. Keep in mind, guys like Duchaine were pioneers who were more interested in exploring than being healthy, and even HE didn't use a lot of the stuff he wrote about or the dosages that he recommended.

Fourtly (if that's a word) something as simple as Ginsing can alleviate many prolactin problems but people don't take advantage of it. Some guys are still in that 90's mentality of it MUST be a drug.

Fifthly (pushing it now) There are so many other options. I've been speaking out about Decca for over 10 years but for the guys who love it, there's no convincing them to stop. Would these drugs help if you had to use Decca? Maybe. Is it worth using a bad drug and trying to alliviate symptons with another untested drug? I say no. But others may disagree.
 
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