Why is it better to get lean before bulking?

[MS]

"Muscle memory" may be based more on the conversion (differentiation) of certain types of muscle fiber due to resistance training. This conversion seems to not only be permanent, but there is a possibility that a lay-off from resistance training also stimulates fromation of new undifferentiated fibers for future training periods. Although the exact mechanisms are not understood, there is a very real effect of previous training on "muscle memory", and some evidence to show that we respond EVEN BETTER to resistance training by taking time off and allowing the muscle memory to kick in....

 

[iced earth]

Re: Re: Why is it better to get lean before bulking?

plus, you'll be a fatass.

Mr.X

LOL!

 

[oubeta]

BULK first them cut. The more muscle mass you have the more cals you will burn.

 

[SteR]

I don't understand what this means. Does this mean that people who HAVE been obese are not able to get to say 5% bodyfat or are you saying it's easier for them to BECOME fat again if they slip up on their diet? The reason I ask is when I was say between 15-16.5 I was a COMPLETE fat ass, like 40% but I lost it all over the course of the next year. I'm now 19 and trying to cut and would ideally like to get to say 7-8% but by the sounds of this post it seems as though it's gonna be near impossible . So what's the deal, does this mean it's going to be HARDER than it would be if I never got fat or what?

 

[MS]

From a practical point of view you should still be able to get down to 7-8%. But you will possibly lose a lot more muscle to get there than someone who has never been over 15% and is dropping to the same %fat. Your body will also fight harder to hang on to those last few %, and will fight even harder to make sure you gain it all back again once you start dieting. But you gotta try these things for yourself, and if the loss of LBM bothers you you can always just use AAS.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

From a practical point of view you should still be able to get down to 7-8%. But you will possibly lose a lot more muscle to get there than someone who has never been over 15% and is dropping to the same %fat. Your body will also fight harder to hang on to those last few %, and will fight even harder to make sure you gain it all back again once you start dieting. But you gotta try these things for yourself, and if the loss of LBM bothers you you can always just use AAS.

EDITED.....

tell the guy to take some GH and some insulin while your at it. hit up some test too LOL

SteR- you dont need steroids man, but hell its your body

 

[MS]

Hey chill out lifter. I am the last person on this board to advocate AAS for dieting or any other purpose short of 'medical'. I was just giving him unbiased info. The steroids will NOT help him get cut, they will merely help him to retain more muscle while HE does the hard work of diet and exercise. They are totally unnecessary though. I was just pointing out that he is likely to lose muscle mass in his quest to get down to 7% bf WITHOUT AAS. same applies to anyone to a greater or lesser degree. I've been to 7%bf without any steroids and I'm a FEMALE, so of course he can do it. But I DID sacrifice muscle too!

 

[Mr.X]

EDITED.....

tell the guy to take some GH and some insulin while your at it. hit up some test too LOL

SteR- you dont need steroids man, but hell its your body

nclifter6feet6,

Tone down the insults, one more time and I'll have to edit all your posts.

Mr.X

 

[nclifter6feet6]

What a kind service you provide there mr. x. your a real thoughtful person to edit my posts. im not too good at speeling and punctuia'n,. what a kind man you are

 

[nclifter6feet6]

i think u dont like me for whatever reason.....

maybe i should bump up a post from a few weaks ago or maybe you can edit that one aswell for your own sake