Why is it better to get lean before bulking?

[DanielBishop]

Sorry, Mr X.... I know I asked this question at the end of an earlier thread.... but I forgot which one it was and now I can't find it.

You suggest that people get leaner before going onto a bulking phase, and say it will improve the success of the bulking.

Please explain why and how?

 

[JG1]

I think because if you bulk when your BF is semi high, at the end of the bulk your gonna look like a fat pig. But if you bulk when your lean, by the end you won't look to fat.

 

[Deak]

I searched the board, because I was also interested. Here you go:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2174975#post2174975

But I think there are other advantages of being leaner than fat too: you are more sensitive to insulin and you produce more testosterone(I am not sure about this, maybe Mr. X can clarify it for us).

 

[HappyFunBall]

fatass

As you get fatter your body adds more fat cells, which don't go away when you diet (they just get smaller). So your capacity to store fat gets better and better.

Excess calories that are not usable by your other tissues (including muscle) will get stored as fat. This is something you don't want to get good at!

You also grow better when you're lean (or especially after you dieted for a while). More muscle gained and less fat.

Don't get fat, and if you are, diet. If you don't know if you're fat or not, look in the mirror. It won't lie to you.

 

[PieceOfShit]

I just looked and the mirror told my that I am a fat Piece of Shit.

 

[My End Over Mad her]

hahahahahaha

 

[jerkbox]

I just looked and the mirror told my that I am a fat Piece of Shit.

so did mine

 

[crash3837]

Re: fatass

As you get fatter your body adds more fat cells, which don't go away when you diet (they just get smaller). So your capacity to store fat gets better and better.

Are you sure about this?

I was always under the impression that you constantly have the same number of fat cells, its just when your body stores fat the fat cells you have expand.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[HappyFunBall]

fatassitis

I'm pretty sure about this, I've read it in lots of places. Mr. X would know moe. Here is a good quote from the page link below:

"It's now known that we can -- and do, in fact -- "grow" more fat cells in adulthood, and that obese people have more fat cells than non-obese people. What happens is that when fat cells have expanded to their maximum size, they can divide, thus producing an increase in the actual number of fat cells. Obesity develops when a person's fat cells increase either in number (called hyperplasia), in size (called hypertrophy) or very often in both. "

Here's a good article on it:
http://www.ivillage.com/diet/experts/wlcoach/qas/0,5090,165511_36838,00.html

 

[Mr.X]

Sorry, Mr X.... I know I asked this question at the end of an earlier thread.... but I forgot which one it was and now I can't find it.

You suggest that people get leaner before going onto a bulking phase, and say it will improve the success of the bulking.

Please explain why and how?

I answered this already...please go search for the post next time.

Think of it this way: if you're 10%bf and add 4% bodyfat bulking up than you're only 14%bf which is fairly easy to drop from. Now, if you're 18%bf and add 4%, you'll be 22% bf which will increase bodyfat cell count to such a degree that fat-loss will become harder and harder; plus, you'll be a fatass.

Mr.X