Why do you guys use Sustanon instead of Cyp, Enan, or Omna???

[chrome]

I have posted this before, will post it again...

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No, they are not [the same], that is the very common misconception. Here is what the total breakdown is:

Sustanon class drugs. Produced by Organon.

Sustanon '100'
20 mgs propinate
40 mgs phenylpropinate
40 mgs isocaproate
100mgs per mL, single glass ampule, rarely seen.

Sustanon '250'
30 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isocaproate
100 mgs decanoate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, common.

Omnadren class drugs. Produced by Polfa PL or now Jelfa PL.

Old Omnadren
20 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isohexanoate
100 mgs hexanoate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, rare.
Red or black ink on glass, ink rubs off easily.

New Omnadren
30 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isocaproate
100 mgs caproate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, common.
Paper label ampule, currently has black ink.

Hopefully that will clear up any misconceptions.
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Search for omnadren 250 results, it has 14 replies. That is where I originally posted this.

caproate is actually a shorter ester than enanthate
-That means a shorter release time-
Enanthate is much shorter then deconate
-That means a shorter release time-

*So if caproate is shorter (faster acting) than enanthate, which is shorter (Faster acting) than deconate... why are people still saying they are the same?



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[chrome]

I have posted this before, will post it again...

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No, they are not [the same], that is the very common misconception. Here is what the total breakdown is:

Sustanon class drugs. Produced by Organon.

Sustanon '100'
20 mgs propinate
40 mgs phenylpropinate
40 mgs isocaproate
100mgs per mL, single glass ampule, rarely seen.

Sustanon '250'
30 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isocaproate
100 mgs decanoate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, common.

Omnadren class drugs. Produced by Polfa PL or now Jelfa PL.

Old Omnadren
20 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isohexanoate
100 mgs hexanoate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, rare.
Red or black ink on glass, ink rubs off easily.

New Omnadren
30 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isocaproate
100 mgs caproate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, common.
Paper label ampule, currently has black ink.

Hopefully that will clear up any misconceptions.
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Search for omnadren 250 results, it has 14 replies. That is where I originally posted this.

caproate is actually a shorter ester than enanthate
-That means a shorter release time-
Enanthate is much shorter then deconate
-That means a shorter release time-

*So if caproate is shorter (faster acting) than enanthate, which is shorter (Faster acting) than deconate... why are people still saying they are the same?



quote:
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Education goes a long way...don't let ignorance be an excuse.
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ok, you still dont get it do you? caproate is hexanoate. its not in the new formula. there is a differnce between caprOnicium (hex) and caprinicium (dec).

 

[animal B]

sos in my opinion is over prices and a waste of money..
important to know is to use a product that has a fast acting and slow acting ester....so I find using prop mixed with cypinate yields the best results..like the cypro product..or mix your own

 

[nandroloner]

I have posted this before, will post it again...

Old Omnadren
20 mgs propinate
60 mgs phenylpropinate
60 mgs isohexanoate
100 mgs hexanoate
250mgs per mL, single glass ampule, rare.

quote:
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Education goes a long way...don't let ignorance be an excuse.
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I hate to tell you this, bro, but 100+60+60+20 don't equal 250.

Better change that quote.....

 

[thesuperstar]

sust for $6? damn, i need to take a vacation.

 

[DocJ]

sust for $6? damn, i need to take a vacation.

Why? you can get that mail order, no problem

 

[DocJ]

I hate to tell you this, bro, but 100+60+60+20 don't equal 250.

Better change that quote.....

 

[MadMachine]

ok, you still dont get it do you? caproate is hexanoate. its not in the new formula. there is a differnce between caprOnicium (hex) and caprinicium (dec).

Hummmm, I'd have to say, if you honestly don't think Hexanoate/Caproate is in the new formula that you need to look into the matter a little more....
All the information I have about the "New formula" says that Caproate in the final ester. This being the case... you have now confirmed there is a diference between them. Secondly, you confirmed it even more directly beforehand by saying,

isohexanoate is another name for isocaproate.

So, here is my question... if Caproate is the last ester in the "New Formula" (which it is, and if it isn't, please enlighten us as too what is with some type of documentation), why are you even attempting to prolong this arguement?

 

[MadMachine]

Coolhandluke....errr, chrome, lets sum up what you've had to say.

Originally posted by chrome
isohexanoate is another name for isocaproate

Rock on, in total agreement!

Originally posted by chrome
tell me what caprinicium is (the last ester on the 'new' omnas which have been around for quite a while).
CAPRINICIUM=CAPRINIC ACID=DECANOATE

Caprinicium is NOT the last ester cheif. Other than that, I agree, but this has nothing to do with Omnadren, new or old formula.

Originally posted by chrome
caproate is hexanoate. its not in the new formula. there is a differnce between caprOnicium (hex) and caprinicium (dec).

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm saying!!!

Basicly, I think your confusion comes in on being under the impression that either...

1- Caproate is Caprinicium

or

2- Caprinicium is the last ester of omnadren

Neither of which are correct. That being the case, your arguement doesn't hold water, so how about if we stop the stupid flame shit, and move on with our lives? The formula was "Changed" from Hex to Capro about four years ago, not Hex to Capri. Unless you have some documentation stating otherwise...I don't know what to tell you.

People can pick up copies of anabolics 2000 and most other RECENT or NEW anabolic reference manuals and find this out for themselves.

 

[TheBone]

The best price i saw for sust was 13 per amp, but i'm in canada, so i guess that's as good as it gets eh?