Why do some of you people believe in God??

[tdekeyser]

Re: Re: Great topic!

Science doesn't proove anything. It only gives conclusions based on statistics.

What??? If someone says that our planet is the center of the universe, and the sun revolves around it, science is the one who proves that is not true. If someone says that we were created by a god 10,000 years ago, science proves that the planet is more like 4 billion years old, and that we evolved, not created. If someone says that the reason that things fall back to earth is because of gods will, science proves it has nothing to do with god, and it is called gravity. Science will prove all the things that we are not yet aware of, and not yet believing in yet.

For example, right now we still do not know if there is an afterlife. Many people have claimed from near-death expeiances that they saw a light, blah, blah, blah. Well, science has done extensive testing, and has proven that the brain excreets certain chemicals that will cause you to 'think' you are seeing alight. They can even duplicate with electronics/magnets a subject to 'feel' like they are with god. Is it god or is it just their imagination? Science can prove the latter.

 

[Weapon X]

I believe in Aleister Crowley's dictum: "The method of science, the goal of religion."
Also that any sufficiently advanced science will seem like magick to those who do not understand it.

 

[tdekeyser]

Re: I didn't believe either.

I never believed either until my eyes were opened.

I walked to the kitchen got a steak knife and walked back to my room, as I went back into my room and started to slit my wrist I saw a bible that was given to my along time ago laying on the floor. I laughed and said yeah right, (language here is direct quote, I don't talk this way anymore) what the fuck God if there is such a thing you wanna kick me one last time before I got to hell, fuck you and that. Thankfully He touched my heart, and I decided to try praying for the first time in my life. I had never been to church or been around church people so I didn't know what to do, just mumbled that I was done living my life and You could have it and do whatever before I ended it all. Something in me changed, and I decided not to kill myself, I just curled up and went to sleep. The next day I woke up and my dealer had called, him and his woman split and he was ok with the situation, and invited me to his house for aparty. I went over and sat down, as they passed the O pipe around, with a joint following I grabbed it. As I went to hit the opium, I realised I didn't want it any more. Ever since that day I've been following God, and amazing things have happened. I've gotten motivated to loose weight (120lb so far) and am going to college. Once you accept God you'll understand.

For those of you who like to discredit God by saying, bad stuff happens why does God let it.
There is not a single passage in the bible that says bad things won't happen, in fact there is a passage stating that as Christians we will be persecuted for standing up for our faith. Satan is king in the world until Jesus comes again. Christians take true joy in life because we know one day our faith will be rewarded by Heaven. For me its alot like lifting, its not always fun or pain free but the results are well worth it.

And lastly for the people saying Christians are bad so there is no God. That is the most idiotic idea I've ever seen. God is perfect and sets the rules, we have free will to live within them or not, just because someone says they are a Christian doesn't mean they are, or that they represent what God wants.

I know plenty of fat people who would say they are bodybuilders, does that mean everyone who is in good shape doesn't exist??

Oh boy, here we go again. You could have done all that changing without him ya know. Actually you DID!!! You just THINK it was some god. If your god is real, then summom him. Summon him right now. Well? Where is he? If he was real, we would have him on film, or a miracle on film or something? WE HAVE NOTHING AT ALL! ANYWHERE! NOTHING. There is nothing, so there is nothing to base anything on. We know that bacteria exists, because we can capture, and film it. We know that atoms exists because we can do the same. Where is your god?? He only works in mysterious ways... HA! That is the only way to explain him not being real. WOOF!

 

[Wrongun]

Re: I didn't believe either.

I never believed either until my eyes were opened.

I use to not only not believe in God, I lived just about everyday doing as much wrong as I could, and never thought a single thing about it, until life caught up with me. Here is a little bit about who I was.
From what I was able to figure, and this isn't counting the free drugs I got from friends, but I used bout 50,000 dollars in drugs over about 3 months. Ran the spectrum, opium, pot, alchohol, crack, cocaine, pain killers, acid, shrooms, dxm, and anything else I could get my hands on. Spent about 2 months straight binging on drugs, wasn't ever not high or strung out, drunk or something less than sober. Along with all this I was messing around having sex, stealing to support my habit, all sorts of low class stuff. Got so bad I was growing pot about 20 ft from a police station, and so mad at my gf at the time that I ended up raping her, needless to say we didn't stay together. This just added to my desire to stay messed up, then my father died while we were quite mad at one another. And through all this I never once thought about God as anymore than a crutch for the weak, and a made up idea by fools. About a year after dad died I was messing around with my dealers woman when he found out. Not a pretty picture at all, also got busted for some stuff at work that left me broke, and with out a dealer I could ask to front me drugs. The withdraw from 3 months of constant and heavy drug use hit me about like a semi. As I sat in my apt. trying to find a source all the stuff I'd done, mistakes I'd made, and such started welling up in my head. This led to a very horrible depressed feeling, and I just broke down crying like a baby. About and hour or two later I was literally unable to cry any more and found myself curled up in the fetal position in a puddle of my own tears and decided I'd had enough of this life. I walked to the kitchen got a steak knife and walked back to my room, as I went back into my room and started to slit my wrist I saw a bible that was given to my along time ago laying on the floor. I laughed and said yeah right, (language here is direct quote, I don't talk this way anymore) what the fuck God if there is such a thing you wanna kick me one last time before I got to hell, fuck you and that. Thankfully He touched my heart, and I decided to try praying for the first time in my life. I had never been to church or been around church people so I didn't know what to do, just mumbled that I was done living my life and You could have it and do whatever before I ended it all. Something in me changed, and I decided not to kill myself, I just curled up and went to sleep. The next day I woke up and my dealer had called, him and his woman split and he was ok with the situation, and invited me to his house for aparty. I went over and sat down, as they passed the O pipe around, with a joint following I grabbed it. As I went to hit the opium, I realised I didn't want it any more. Ever since that day I've been following God, and amazing things have happened. I've gotten motivated to loose weight (120lb so far) and am going to college. Once you accept God you'll understand.

For those of you who like to discredit God by saying, bad stuff happens why does God let it.
There is not a single passage in the bible that says bad things won't happen, in fact there is a passage stating that as Christians we will be persecuted for standing up for our faith. Satan is king in the world until Jesus comes again. Christians take true joy in life because we know one day our faith will be rewarded by Heaven. For me its alot like lifting, its not always fun or pain free but the results are well worth it.

For the people who said they don't believe what science can't prove hehehe welcome to becoming a Christian
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31278&highlight=God

And lastly for the people saying Christians are bad so there is no God. That is the most idiotic idea I've ever seen. God is perfect and sets the rules, we have free will to live within them or not, just because someone says they are a Christian doesn't mean they are, or that they represent what God wants.

I know plenty of fat people who would say they are bodybuilders, does that mean everyone who is in good shape doesn't exist??

good read and food for thought.

Good topic for a post

 

[Weapon X]

I believe in God, and I have been healed by God of an injury. The healing stymied my doctor, who had been ready to schedule me for surgery.
I don't need anyone else to believe me, and I am not ashamed of my faith.
I am not a fundamentalist and I don't believe that God hates any of His children. I do not believe that H ewishes anyone to go to hell, and I do not believe that He wishes us to hate homosexuals or Muslims, or anyone else.

Shalom to the Dome, bros.

 

[Weapon X]

Juicemunkee, did God heal you so that you could steal protein bars from the supermarket?

 

[tdekeyser]

I believe in God, and I have been healed by God of an injury. The healing stymied my doctor, who had been ready to schedule me for surgery.
I don't need anyone else to believe me, and I am not ashamed of my faith.
I am not a fundamentalist and I don't believe that God hates any of His children. I do not believe that H ewishes anyone to go to hell, and I do not believe that He wishes us to hate homosexuals or Muslims, or anyone else.

Shalom to the Dome, bros.

You are considered a liberal. Much better than the hateful fundementalist.

Again, belief is to each his own. I can apprecuiate that.

 

[b fold the truth]

Well...this is a touchy subject with me...kinda narrowminded when it comes to this. I'm not for sure what to tell you. I can honestly say that if you do not believe in God, you will probably not understand the fire that burns inside of me and the part of me being a Chrisitan. If you are a Christian, and a very strong one, then you understand..hard to explain to someone that is not.

I understand your points of why would God allow such bad things to happen..trust me I do. I can not explain them. I believe that there are flaws within the Christian religion and maybe even in the Bible. We are not meant to understand everything that has happened or will happen. We probably could not fathom it anyway. I try to figure out the positions that God has put me in during my life. I remember laying in a hospital bed a few years ago and the doctor telling me that I could very well die if I caught even the slightest cold. What the heck do you say to that? How does God put this burden upon a young child like myself and expect for me to understand? That I do not know or understand.

I've been through a lot lately..which left me extremely depressed and hating myself and who I am inside. A few weeks ago I was so down that I did not know what to do and really had no desire to get up and go on...I prayed to God for help....and I had no more than finished praying when someone from Elite messaged me at midnight and helped me greatly. I think that maybe I had to go through all of this pain just for God to get me closer to this friend...who knows? I have not a clue. I just thank him.

If you never believe in God, or the primary issues in the Bible, I will tell you that if you live accordingly and still do not believe...then you will still be a happier person. The Bible sets a standard set of rules, and if you honestly live by them, your life will be greatly improved.

Just my biased 2 cents

B True

 

[plifter]

I met god once and I told him to go to hell for giving me a small weiner!

 

[tdekeyser]

I have heard god speak to me.
Listen,I sold my soul to the devil a few years ago.
About a year later I would have intense fears of the devil,one night,I heard a voice and it was god telling me to come back to him and my fears would be replaced with happiness.
THANKYOU GOD,I WILL FOREVER LOVE YOU AND SERVE YOU IN HEAVEN.

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PUT THE PIPE DOWN BRO!!!!


If he is real, then ask him to make you real big withot AS or lifting!

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