Why do people like Eq??

[PatBateman3]

I must admit, when I first came to the darkside, I loved Eq because it was one of the only juices I knew. But now some years later, I'm kind of wondering why people like it so much? I can understand for vascularity and appetite-boosting reasons. Some things I don't like about Eq are that it isn't fast acting (most people see their best gains at a minimum of 8 weeks) and as with any other long-ester gear, if one does happen to get sides (I know, unlikely with Eq), then withdrawl takes about 2 weeks. I don't find it to be a particularly good steroid in terms of bulking or cutting when considering the other alternatives out there. It definitely heightens BP in many users.

Basically, my feelings changed when a member on here said to me something to the effect of: Why bother with Eq when fina will do all that you are looking to accomplish in a shorter time with a shorter-acting ester. Good point I'm thinking. Screw the Eq, my next cycle is fina alone or fina/var.

 

[brooklynheight]

makes u hungry

 

[canadianhitman]

Steady, quality gains with few to no sides.

 

[The Terminator]

For guys who have ALREADY achieved their desired look EQ is GREAT, as it WONT make massive body composition changes...

So for someone who likes doing a cycle and only gaining 5-7 lbs and leaning up a bit it is GREAT choice...
But those type of guys maybe arent that common...

 

[flex2win]

Great anabolism, aromatizes poorly, very little side effects, costs a lot less than primo!! Although Primo is in a class of its own...

 

[CRsteve]

I'm loving every second of it. It doesn't make me explode in size very quick so I'm not questioned about use, yet it's already helping my strength and performance (taking for athletic purposes, not aesthetics). The price is right. I'm satisfied.

 

[PatBateman3]

I hear you guys. For me, after trying fina I'll never bother with Eq again. For those of you who like it so much, are you doing Eq alone so that you know the gains/effects you are liking are coming from the Eq itself?

 

[KOArtist]

Athletes tend to like it because it increases red (or is it white) blood cell count which leads to better cardio.

 

[The Terminator]

I hear you guys. For me, after trying fina I'll never bother with Eq again. For those of you who like it so much, are you doing Eq alone so that you know the gains/effects you are liking are coming from the Eq itself?

My cycles are usually the same thing anymore.
250 mg/week of Test with 400 mg/week of EQ...

Those dosages keep me RIGHT WHERE I want to be

 

[idcbp]

I don't think fina is a good comparison. IMO its way stronger and for the more advanced lifter. Sides are definietly more difficult for most. You may react well with little sides, but on the whole EQ is much easier to tolerate. I'm currently using EQ for the first time, admitedly stack with 750-100mg of test, but its raw for vascularity and leaning out. Not a single side and thats frontloading 1200 for two weeks and 600 the rest of the way. Only issue is my diet is a bitch b/c I'm so hungry, but thats why we got will power. Definitely happy.

 

[maldorf]

I stack EQ along with Fina and test. I get too many sides with high doses of Fina, but can stack EQ with it to reach a higher dose level when considering the total dose. This is why I like EQ.

 

[Beatnut07]

For guys who have ALREADY achieved their desired look EQ is GREAT, as it WONT make massive body composition changes...

So for someone who likes doing a cycle and only gaining 5-7 lbs and leaning up a bit it is GREAT choice...
But those type of guys maybe arent that common...

From what i understand any steroid can help a person achieve 'dramatic' results. Most guys who use it, use it for cutting or lean gain purposes anyway. Obviously for someone who has high bf %, it isn't going to work that great, but nothing really will if your bf is high. I've heard guys use EQ and have dramatic results(basically getting shreaded), but their dieting and training were strict and on point. It could be the difference between love handles or no love handles, which is dramatic. So the main conclusion is how bad you want to change your body composition while using it, and saying that it "WON'T" make massive composition changes, IMO is wrong.
However, i heard of an AS that could do everything (cutting, bulking) at the same time, called Magicbolan. lol

 

[Fat_Sumo]

With fina you definaltley have alot more sides to contend with when compared to EQ. Its up to you if its worth the trade off.

 

[TRAINHD]

The most anabolic substance known to man is FOOD,without it you cant buid anything.So if you can take a steroid that increases you're hunger while making you more vascular,cut,stronger,and to top it off your more likely to keep the gains,whats not to like?

 

[Tweakle]

Didn't think much of it.. gave me nosebleeds and worse BP than tren

I can see someone adding a gram of EQ to a supercycle if they just cant face any more androgens.. but personally I have no use for it.. give me tren/test/winny for off the hook strength gains

 

[TraxZBT]

why EQ? Lean muscle with GREAT recovery, no shedding or mood swings.... what more can I ask for?

 

[chaos17]

If you like anxiety attacks it's a great . I'd rather use deca...

 

[Bruce]

The most anabolic substance known to man is FOOD,without it you cant buid anything.So if you can take a steroid that increases you're hunger while making you more vascular,cut,stronger,and to top it off your more likely to keep the gains,whats not to like?

spoken like a pro, exactly. a lot of people use eq to bulk because of the appetite.

 

[The Terminator]

So the main conclusion is how bad you want to change your body composition while using it, and saying that it "WON'T" make massive composition changes, IMO is wrong.

OK, so you nitpicked me good (I like that )
SPECIFICS are key

On MYSELF EQ DOESNT make massive body cpmpostion changes (even with drastic dietary changes) but then again I DONT cycle with the intent of making big body changes anymore (those days are OVER WITH for me)

But I have seen FIRSHAND guys who used Fina and get ALOT more than they expected (as far as overall body sculpting and changing goes), it was counterproductive in some instances
(wrestlers putting ON WEIGHT AND MUSCLE with 500-800 calorie A DAY DIETS ), while EQ will NOT make those kinds of changes to ones body...

For strictly an ADVANCED ATHLETE EQ probably wont make major changes, while Tren can (even with a VERY RESTRICTED diet and training regimen)

 

[The Terminator]

From what i understand any steroid can help a person achieve 'dramatic' results. Most guys who use it, use it for cutting or lean gain purposes anyway. Obviously for someone who has high bf %, it isn't going to work that great, but nothing really will if your bf is high. I've heard guys use EQ and have dramatic results(basically getting shreaded), but their dieting and training were strict and on point. It could be the difference between love handles or no love handles, which is dramatic. So the main conclusion is how bad you want to change your body composition while using it, and saying that it "WON'T" make massive composition changes, IMO is wrong.
However, i heard of an AS that could do everything (cutting, bulking) at the same time, called Magicbolan. lol

For a REAL NOVICE in the steroid world ANY drug can (and probably WILL make some major changes)
But for an advanced athlete, EQ WONT make those changes...
If it DOES, then one WASNT an advanced athlete, imo

 

[Beatnut07]

OK, so you nitpicked me good (I like that )
SPECIFICS are key

On MYSELF EQ DOESNT make massive body cpmpostion changes (even with drastic dietary changes) but then again I DONT cycle with the intent of making big body changes anymore (those days are OVER WITH for me)

But I have seen FIRSHAND guys who used Fina and get ALOT more than they expected (as far as overall body sculpting and changing goes), it was counterproductive in some instances
(wrestlers putting ON WEIGHT AND MUSCLE with 500-800 calorie A DAY DIETS ), while EQ will NOT make those kinds of changes to ones body...

For strictly an ADVANCED ATHLETE EQ probably wont make major changes, while Tren can (even with a VERY RESTRICTED diet and training regimen)

Well said...lol. I didn't mean to come off hard, just trying to reassure the people that use Eq about how it works best. I think now people can understand better who SHOULD and SHOULDN'T use EQ for the reasons stated in this thread. Most of the people on this board aren't top athletes so, just had to clear that up.

 

[Bruce]

For a REAL NOVICE in the steroid world ANY drug can (and probably WILL make some major changes)
But for an advanced athlete, EQ WONT make those changes...
If it DOES, then one WASNT an advanced athlete, imo

for a person who has not reached there genetic limit. what do you feel the best dose of eq is for puttin on mass. i guess i am asking will 600 a week give much greater gains than 400 a week, will the hunger be more intense on 600 as well. i have found that eating is the only bulker for me, so i can take whatever gear i want and bulk up. running the eq with 250 test e when my 12 weeks off are up.

 

[PatBateman3]

Great responses guys. I may keep it in the rotation for my next bulker.

 

[The Terminator]

for a person who has not reached there genetic limit. what do you feel the best dose of eq is for puttin on mass. i guess i am asking will 600 a week give much greater gains than 400 a week, will the hunger be more intense on 600 as well. i have found that eating is the only bulker for me, so i can take whatever gear i want and bulk up. running the eq with 250 test e when my 12 weeks off are up.

For someone looking for alot of size EQ is NOT the best choice...
But 600 mg/week will give some nice solid LEAN TISSUE gains (for me it does anyway )

But I wouldnt expect too much from either 400 or 600 a week...
If you gain 15+ lbs off that dosage then you SHOULDNT have been using steroids IMO
(I dont think ANYONE should be gaining that kind of weight on ONE cycle, and certainly not with a 'milder' drug like EQ...)

 

[Bruce]

For someone looking for alot of size EQ is NOT the best choice...
But 600 mg/week will give some nice solid LEAN TISSUE gains (for me it does anyway )

But I wouldnt expect too much from either 400 or 600 a week...
If you gain 15+ lbs off that dosage then you SHOULDNT have been using steroids IMO
(I dont think ANYONE should be gaining that kind of weight on ONE cycle, and certainly not with a 'milder' drug like EQ...)

i am surprised u feel that way. i have only done deca and heard eq was superior so i wanted to try. yes i am very patient with my gains, but the only way i gain is by eating 4500-5000 cals. if eq can allow me to do that i think 15 isn't out of the question. i am also adding some tbol at the begining and maybe tren at the end.

 

[KOArtist]

it was counterproductive in some instances
(wrestlers putting ON WEIGHT AND MUSCLE with 500-800 calorie A DAY DIETS ), while EQ will NOT make those kinds of changes to ones body...
For strictly an ADVANCED ATHLETE EQ probably wont make major changes, while Tren can (even with a VERY RESTRICTED diet and training regimen)

I would imagine it was VERY counterproductive for a wrestler, or any athlete that needs stamina, to be taking tren. That shit throws your cardio/stamina right out the fucking door.

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

Gains vs sides for me. Tren vs EQ. EQ wins.
EQ - No hair loss, no water, didn't touch my BP, OK gains.
Tren - Hair loss, bloated me, spiked my BP badly, couldn't sleep, appetite was crap, but the gains were the fucking sickest I ever saw.

 

[craigsuperbig]

You said it
Many people knew it because its widely and cheaply available all over the thirld world - as veterinary versions-
Its a beginner thing, deca is better, and afterwards test.

 

[bigmusclehead]

I hear you guys. For me, after trying fina I'll never bother with Eq again. For those of you who like it so much, are you doing Eq alone so that you know the gains/effects you are liking are coming from the Eq itself?

so why do u like fina so much compared to eq ? fina has alot more sides for sure .

 

[PatBateman3]

so why do u like fina so much compared to eq ? fina has alot more sides for sure .

I just love the gains on fina and for me, if I keep the dose moderate, the sides seem to be ok.

 

[The Terminator]

i am surprised u feel that way. i have only done deca and heard eq was superior so i wanted to try. yes i am very patient with my gains, but the only way i gain is by eating 4500-5000 cals. if eq can allow me to do that i think 15 isn't out of the question. i am also adding some tbol at the begining and maybe tren at the end.

Deca will usually be superior to EQ in regards to TOTAL WEIGHT GAINED...
However, the quality of that weight in most instances will probably be BETTER WITH EQ

Deca bloats me pretty badly even at just 300 mg/week (even with Femara and Nolva) while EQ does not (with TWICE the dosage)

 

[Dieselgoku23]

why?? EQ is poor mans Primo thats why!!!! my .2 cents

 

[Mavy]

I think that if tren didnt have the sides associated with it .. everyone would use it over EQ.

I personally love EQ.

 

[The Terminator]

I think that if tren didnt have the sides associated with it .. everyone would use it over EQ.

I personally love EQ.

Probably

But it seems to come with alot MORE NEGATIVE SIDES than ANY OTHER steroid available today