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Why do Most men on here Belittle Women?

even though its unpopular to say so, and in typical stanley milgramish fashion most here will disagree, i agree that women on an unconscious level find some kind of abuse attractive. Perhaps it gives them a chance to show their worth, or to feel like they are a member of a relationship (one of the first sign that you are part of an organization is to be abused for not following its rules. No gov. can exist w/o a police force, that kind of thing). I can, offhand, think of 2 women i didn't give a shit about who were mad about me.

However, that is just the unconscious part. People also have conscious desires.



Don't ask me why i know so much about which monkeys will put out and which won't.


you forgot france. Polygamy is natural there too. And the middle east. but I think you are describing a part of mating, not the whole thing.
 
big4life said:
I would like to think that it is mostly due to a lack of maturity and a lack of experience with relationships of a non sexual nature with women. Most young guys see a woman as only a sex object, not an equal. Once you see a woman as an equal, then you will see who and what she truly is.

Usually, I agree with you but you are so far off. I have been continously praised for my maturity. It defines me and the girls i date show it. It's when you try to treat women as equals that the situation backfires and you become the person who gets treated like an inferior--feelings neglected, taken for granted and advantage of.
 
68GT350 said:


Usually, I agree with you but you are so far off. I have been continously praised for my maturity. It defines me and the girls i date show it. It's when you try to treat women as equals that the situation backfires and you become the person who gets treated like an inferior--feelings neglected, taken for granted and advantage of.
Right... so you can either blame women or false expectations.

Why are you crusading against women in this way? Why not start a crusade of men who relentlessly shag many women, abuse them and screw them over? Seriously.
 
havoc said:
Some on here answered as I had expected, in a gay, immature way, garbage like "If I'm disrespected I will call her a bitch" and things along those lines, thats pretty damn weak, if you are disrespected in whatever way, that does not mean you disrespect anyone else, again, 2 wrongs don't make a right, and disrespect is never right in any case, many of you have alot of growing to do, and one thing you can't argue with is me on this subject. peace
Your points seem just as unsupported as many of the points you characterize as immature. All you have basically done is restated some self-righteous and cliche conventional wisdom, such as "2 wrongs don't make a right".

Before you asked what you thought was an obvious question (why guys on this board belittle women), you should have thought about why it seemed questionable to you.

Why don't you belittle women?
 
plornive said:
Your points seem just as unsupported as many of the points you characterize as immature. All you have basically done is restated some self-righteous and cliche conventional wisdom, such as "2 wrongs don't make a right".

Before you asked what you thought was an obvious question (why guys on this board belittle women), you should have thought about why it seemed questionable to you.

Why don't you belittle women?
You can't be that dense my friend, just read my first post, it can't be argued, if you think it can, you are fooling yourself. peace
 
havoc said:

You can't be that dense my friend, just read my first post, it can't be argued, if you think it can, you are fooling yourself. peace
I read your first post. It had a lot of theory, but not a lot of substance. How about some experience? Experience tells me that subtly disrespeting women causes them to want me more. I have given examples in another thread. I can dig it up if you would like.

And BTW, this is a message board. It helps to state clearly what you mean instead of trying to subtly infer it with one-liners, sarcasm and self-righteousness.
 
plornive said:
I read your first post. It had a lot of theory, but not a lot of substance. How about some experience? Experience tells me that subtly disrespeting women causes them to want me more. I have given examples in another thread. I can dig it up if you would like.

And BTW, this is a message board. It helps to state clearly what you mean instead of trying to subtly infer it with one-liners, sarcasm and self-righteousness.
Self righteousness = Truth then.

No need to dig it up, any woman who would turn a guy down or think negatively because one is treating her with respect is not a good woman to be with, her thoughts are clouded if she thinks in such a fashion, so if these women you have dated like disrespect then so be it, I just personally don't think one can go wrong by being respectful. peace
 
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Frackal said:


Glad you're doing the paying for once in your long dating history.



lol------you know me so well :rolleyes: You assume way too much, this may be why you have a hard time with women.

I have nothing to prove. I have mentioned many times, that I like equal relationships, and I like the financial side to be shared.
 
I do agree with plornive to a certain extent. I am not in any way an advocate of disrepecting females in real life...some of things I post on here would lead you to believe the exact opposite, but this is the internet and it makes people laugh so that's why I do it. In my dating experience, the relationships that have lasted the longest and remained "equal" (i.e. she didn't end up wearing the pants and eventually break up with me) were ones that I occasionally was a shit in. I'm not talking about cheating or being abusive as I wouldn't do either of those, but every now and then maybe making a comment that gets a rise out of her. Maybe every now and then you forget something important and you're "an asshole" for a few days. The bottom line is that it keeps you from becoming boring. You're still somewhat of a work in progress in her eyes. When I was the perfect boyfriend, or at least what I thought that was in my mind, always being supportive and the nice guy, invariably said female gets bored and bails. Yeah so you can say you don't want a woman that would want her man to be the occasional jerk, but honestly I have yet to run into a female who didn't respond positively to occasionaly shitheadisms.
Now the way I usually determine if and when to start being the occasional meanie, is to see how she reacts to being treated with complete and total respect. If she returns it fully, it's cool and you have nothing to worry about. If she starts to take it for granted and begins mistreating you, you can either leave(smart thing) or start being a dick every now and then to keep her attention and keep the challenge going.
 
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