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Why do Most men on here Belittle Women?

havoc said:
Self righteousness = Truth then.
I have no idea why that would be true.

havoc said:
No need to dig it up, any woman who would turn a guy down or thing negatively because one is treating her with respect is not a good woman to be with, her thoughts are clouded if she thinks in such a fashion, so if these women you have dated like disrespect then so be it, I just personally don't think one can go wrong by being respectful. peace
You don't think one can go wrong by being respectful? What about all of the people in this thread who went wrong by being respectful?

You state a lot of ideals, but ideals are not reality without a reason independent of your desire for them to be so. Although you seem to believe that women who are attracted to abuse and disrespect have clouded minds, many people have found that nearly all women are attracted to abuse and disrespect.

If you do not agree that most women are attracted, in some part, to abuse and disrespect, then lets agree to disagree. I'm just trying to find where we differ so we aren't just stabbing in the dark.
 
jennifer said:




lol------you know me so well :rolleyes: You assume way too much, this may be why you have a hard time with women.

I have nothing to prove. I have mentioned many times, that I like equal relationships, and I like the financial side to be shared.


There is one thing sorely missing from your avatar. That tongue seriously needs to be working on something.
 
supersizeme said:
I do agree with plornive to a certain extent. I am not in any way an advocate of disrepecting females in real life...some of things I post on here would lead you to believe the exact opposite, but this is the internet and it makes people laugh so that's why I do it. In my dating experience, the relationships that have lasted the longest and remained "equal" (i.e. she didn't end up wearing the pants and eventually break up with me) were ones that I occasionally was a shit in. I'm not talking about cheating or being abusive as I wouldn't do either of those, but every now and then maybe making a comment that gets a rise out of her. Maybe every now and then you forget something important and you're "an asshole" for a few days. The bottom line is that it keeps you from becoming boring. You're still somewhat of a work in progress in her eyes. When I was the perfect boyfriend, or at least what I thought that was in my mind, always being supportive and the nice guy, invariably said female gets bored and bails. Yeah so you can say you don't want a woman that would want her man to be the occasional jerk, but honestly I have yet to run into a female who didn't respond positively to occasionaly shitheadisms.
Now the way I usually determine if and when to start being the occasional meanie, is to see how she reacts to being treated with complete and total respect. If she returns it fully, it's cool and you have nothing to worry about. If she starts to take it for granted and begins mistreating you, you can either leave(smart thing) or start being a dick every now and then to keep her attention and keep the challenge going.
Exactly. Now, start being a bigger and bigger jerk, and she will slowly accept it. Then maybe you will start to think about being the occasional *nice guy* instead of the occasional jerk. Its not your fault --- you didn't create this fucked up world, you are just living in it. Who says that something so inherent is wrong, anyway?
 
plornive said:
Right... so you can either blame women or false expectations.

Why are you crusading against women in this way? Why not start a crusade of men who relentlessly shag many women, abuse them and screw them over? Seriously.

I would never stoop to their level. However, I tried, failed and didn't like myself for it, anyways.

I'll just bitch and moan.
 
plornive said:
I have no idea why that would be true.

You don't think one can go wrong by being respectful? What about all of the people in this thread who went wrong by being respectful?

You state a lot of ideals, but ideals are not reality without a reason independent of your desire for them to be so. Although you seem to believe that women who are attracted to abuse and disrespect have clouded minds, many people have found that nearly all women are attracted to abuse and disrespect.

If you do not agree that most women are attracted, in some part, to abuse and disrespect, then lets agree to disagree. I'm just trying to find where we differ so we aren't just stabbing in the dark.
Well here it is plornive, we agree that we disagree, I belive any woman who honestly likes rudeness/disrespect does not have the outlook I would like a woman to have, therefore her mind is not working properly, thats all, you have some very good points. peace
 
havoc is a good guy, at least he didnt give me a load of shit for having a different opinion from him...

matter of fact he was very pleasant about it. refreshing
 
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