scarkarn said:Not me... Hell i'm sorry i waited so long.
chordz said:maybe it's because i've been natural so long.....But damn is my body responding to it now. Has it been waiting for it?
Lift Chief said:No... why should one feel guilty about using all the available tools at their disposal to achieve their goals?

chordz said:
Cause your nuts shrink![]()
Lift Chief said:No... why should one feel guilty about using all the available tools at their disposal to achieve their goals?
jubei said:No reason to feel guilty unless you were taking steroids to give yourself an unfair advantage in a sports competition.
chordz said:I'm constantly trying to justify using gear to myself...Anyone else feel this way?
BigAndy69 said:You should feel guilty if you haven't accomplished much naturally. If a guy can't put up 185 on Bench for more than 3 reps, he's got no business using roids.
I trained for years before I juiced, and I busted my ass naturally before I ever considered juice. I had goals (strenght and mass) I wanted to achieve before I considered juice.
I don't feel guilty about it, I've taken my body as far as I can and earned self respect. If you've been training for a year or so and considering juice, than yes you should feel guilty about it.
JuicePimp said:
I agree 100% here. Though I can understand how people may feel guilty for other reasons. For many, those who dont use rec drugs, and have lived an honest life of self-improvement, there is a very real and often strong fealing of guilt when they venture out into the underground. After all, regardless of what they think of gear, they have been taught their entire life to respect the law, etc. For someone to do a 180 degree turn and not to ever wonder if they made the right choice would be unnatural. This is just human nature. Eventually, those that choose to stick with it find a way to reconcile what they do with what they believe. Then there is no more guilt for them.
BigAndy69 said:You should feel guilty if you haven't accomplished much naturally. If a guy can't put up 185 on Bench for more than 3 reps, he's got no business using roids.
I trained for years before I juiced, and I busted my ass naturally before I ever considered juice. I had goals (strenght and mass) I wanted to achieve before I considered juice.
I don't feel guilty about it, I've taken my body as far as I can and earned self respect. If you've been training for a year or so and considering juice, than yes you should feel guilty about it.
I think a lot of these extremely low dose short cycles are a result of newbies who shouldn't be juicing in the first place trying to justify what they are doing, "Oh, I'm only using 250mg a week for 4 weeks"
needsize trained for a decade naturally before juicing, 250mg of Test a week wouldn't have done a thing for him.
chordz said:
before this cycle I have trained for twelve years. ( I'm 27 now). I have seen alot in those years. I have seen many people come and go. I can notice the slightest bit of growth, as it comes very slow. I agree with" If a guy can't put up 185 on Bench for more than 3 reps, he's got no business using roids."
But it happens all the time. I've worked so hard naturally and i just don't want to think that i've given up. Anyone else would think the same way. It's just making the leap into the next level.Now three weeks into my test cycle, i can't believe how fast i broke through the plateau i've been at for quite some time now. I will post a pic soon.
chordz said:I'm constantly trying to justify using gear to myself...Anyone else feel this way?

needsize said:nope, after 10 years of busting my ass naturally I earned the right to juice
Quadsweep said:
Amen! I waited 12 years! Glad I did. Gave me a great base to build on.
Quad
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