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Why do some bros add masteron to a test/tren stack? What are they looking for? Why the addition of the masteron to an already awesome stack?
Why add masteron?
- Thread starter Smokescreen
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I don't think estrogen is really an issue with a test/tren stack. I have ran test/tren many time in the past 8 years and adding tren was enough to get rid of all the bloat. Tren also made my physique very hard.
Pound4PoundAAS
Survivor
But tren won't do anything as far as AI. Tren might lean you out and you might not seem bloated but that doesn't stop testosterone from aromatizing
Then why not take proviron instead? No?
I never said you couldn't lol...to me, they are similar. Either one work awesome
How much of each one did you take? For how long? What did you do to get a good nights sleep?
Jesus! Really bro? You sleep fine without taking anything to fall AND stay asleep?
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Hmmm.
Which now flips the whole question around.
What's better to use on a test/tren stack? Mast or winstrol? And why?
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here's some reading for you which it seems you never want to do on your own...
Masteron is a stronger androgen than it appears on paper, and and this could cause increased aggression. As we know, higher androgens also produce that "hard" look prized by competitive BBers and as we all know, androgens also promote lypolysis (fat loss). The effects of Masteron, in that way are consistent with the documented effects of (somewhat heavier) androgens to decrease lipoprotein lipase and upregulate -adrenergic receptors on adipocytes, which would inhibit the accumulation of lipid (fat) and enhance the efflux of lipid from these cells in response to catecholamines. Dont let Masterons deceptively low Anabolic:Androgenic ratio fool you, it helps eliminate fat as well (if not better) than much more highly scored androgens, in part due to its being a derivative of DHT. This reduction in fat and rise in aggression (making workouts more effective) could be beneficial for people competing in a sport or who are on a reduced calorie diet. Water retention (and increased danger of high Blood Pressure) with this compound is virtually nil, and liver toxicity is not much of an issue either. Really, you can take heaps of this stuff...the maximum therapeutic dose is pretty high: 167mgs/kg-bdywt/day. So thats 167mgs per day, every day of the week, for a 220lb person...and that's not considered excessive by the FDA...who hasnt been very traditionally liberal on dosing protocols. So clearly, up to that dose is very safe for almost anyone. DHT has a bad reputation for causing prostate hypertrophy, acne, and hairloss& but most people Ive talked to find that reputation to be mostly undeserved at least in the case of Masteron.
Masteron is the fucking shit... you need to be under 10% body fat to really get the most results out of it... its the ultimate muscle hardening androgen... its fucking great...
Masteron is a stronger androgen than it appears on paper, and and this could cause increased aggression. As we know, higher androgens also produce that "hard" look prized by competitive BBers and as we all know, androgens also promote lypolysis (fat loss). The effects of Masteron, in that way are consistent with the documented effects of (somewhat heavier) androgens to decrease lipoprotein lipase and upregulate -adrenergic receptors on adipocytes, which would inhibit the accumulation of lipid (fat) and enhance the efflux of lipid from these cells in response to catecholamines. Dont let Masterons deceptively low Anabolic:Androgenic ratio fool you, it helps eliminate fat as well (if not better) than much more highly scored androgens, in part due to its being a derivative of DHT. This reduction in fat and rise in aggression (making workouts more effective) could be beneficial for people competing in a sport or who are on a reduced calorie diet. Water retention (and increased danger of high Blood Pressure) with this compound is virtually nil, and liver toxicity is not much of an issue either. Really, you can take heaps of this stuff...the maximum therapeutic dose is pretty high: 167mgs/kg-bdywt/day. So thats 167mgs per day, every day of the week, for a 220lb person...and that's not considered excessive by the FDA...who hasnt been very traditionally liberal on dosing protocols. So clearly, up to that dose is very safe for almost anyone. DHT has a bad reputation for causing prostate hypertrophy, acne, and hairloss& but most people Ive talked to find that reputation to be mostly undeserved at least in the case of Masteron.
Masteron is the fucking shit... you need to be under 10% body fat to really get the most results out of it... its the ultimate muscle hardening androgen... its fucking great...
And this makes masteron better than tren at doing what it does? I have always gotten much better results at using tren over masteron.
I really appreciate this rehashed and extremely old nformation your giving me from "Anthony Roberts".
This still doesn't come no where remotely close to answering the question that I originally asked. Again....I still very much appreciate your kindness in helping me.
I think (and I said I think) Wootoom may have already answered the question.
I'm currently using test and tren. Been getting stronger, harder and leaner as the days go on. I'm getting much more superior results than using masteron.
I will "add" masteron to the mix starting tomorrow to see what all the hype is about. It just seems like this test with tren is suffice.....for now. Lol.
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didn't read the whole thread so not sure if someone hit on it already but besides it being beneficial as an AI, it also helps with prolactin.
masteron and tren is like peanut butter and jelly. they go well together.
and I do not agree that taking tren will help block estrogen/bloat.. unless you get bloods to confirm that during cycle I would not trust that information.
masteron and tren is like peanut butter and jelly. they go well together.
and I do not agree that taking tren will help block estrogen/bloat.. unless you get bloods to confirm that during cycle I would not trust that information.
You make a good point, brother. But doesn't progesterone itself work to work against estrogen? This is what I've always read, that progesterone works to balance out estrogen. Tren being a progestin shouldn't be any different.
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Lollll who said anything about masteron being stronger than tren?? Its the ultimate compliment to tren... Its not stronger in any way... You just want to ask questions and then when you get the answers you want to try to dispute them in every way possible... I am pretty certain you do this on purpose... You have been around a very long time and the questions you ask is shit that you already know the answer to... Its getting really old man
progesterone and prolactin are 2 different hormones.
when you take tren your prolactin needs to be controlled. you can do it several ways.. the best ways are with masteron, caber or prami.
if you let prolactin get out of control you WILL end up with major libido problems..
your theory has been bantered around the internet... i have heard control estrogen than you control prolactin.. i have heard control prolactin and you control estrogen. if you really really want to be a guinea pig than go for it and run bloods during, i have myself and do not believe that to be true. i will continue to cover all bases when i cycle because it has worked for me
again I am coming from a different direction than many guys.. I am a person who cycles on and off. those of you on HRT can just go ahead and be sloppy with your AAS use and get away with it.. I on the other hand want to make sure I recover properly and balance out as soon as possible..
Brother, I said progesterone/progestin. I didn't say about prolactin. But I'm glad you did because I keep forgetting about the prolactin issue with this drug. Thanks for bringing it up.
progesterone isn't a problem with tren. it is with deca though.
i will tell you this about tren.. guys think that tren doesn't cause gyno issues.. i beg to differ.. there was a kid on here a year or two ago who would abuse tren, and he would laugh that he could milk his tits. it shouldn't be like that.
I remember that. He was getting gallocterhia
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I agree with Dylan Adding masteron to a Tren/Test cycle is like a Peanut Butter and Jelly sanwhich, To me Provirion doesn't even come close.You should really try it one day, no need for test prop Masteron will take care on the test so the results will be like prop with less injects.
You are making me excited for my April 1st cycle...Test P/Tren E/Mast/Winny, maybe adding Var as well, get ready for my contest.
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That I may have to steal from you...loving my EQ right now, guys were just staring at the gym today, absolutely sick looking vascularity and cuts, fucking love EQ!!! Adding Var for 6 weeks starting tomorrow...I ain't done yet
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