who here never comes off?

[bigdog44]

I ask this because im thinking of doing it for 2005

something like this:
1000mg test a wk 1-12
600mg deca a wk 1-12
40mg dbol a wk 1-6

and then 250mg test a wk 1-12 and then hit again.

ive been using gear off and on for ten years, 36 yrs old been working out since high school.

stats: 1 big huge mother f--ker.

any one else do something like this?

 

[Smokescreen]

I don't come off.

 

[bigdog44]

I don't come off.

you keep the same dose all year?

 

[Smokescreen]

No. I switch drugs around depending on the season and/or my goals.

 

[patsfan1379]

No. I switch drugs around depending on the season and/or my goals.

do you ever worry about permanent damage to your endocrine system?

do you get tested or monitor yourself?

just curious.

 

[SuperDawgy]

do you ever worry about permanent damage to your endocrine system?

do you get tested or monitor yourself?

just curious.

He's on permanent HRT. I'm sure he gets tested.

 

[NYBodyguard]

many people here love to bullshit about their cycle, doses, lifts, arm size, hight, weight

dont believe everything you read

 

[Smokescreen]

I am on HRT. And I do tested from time to time. And the results are always great!

 

[SuperDawgy]

many people here love to bullshit about their cycle, doses, lifts, arm size, hight, weight

dont believe everything you read

Really? You think so? I thought everyone here was sub6% bf and at least 250lbs.

 

[Smokescreen]

Really? You think so? I thought everyone here was sub6% bf and at least 250lbs.

Bwahahaha! Nah..seriously though. NY is right bro! Its true! Not on my part though!!! NO NO NO!!! Shit! I got pics to prove my physique.

 

[biggeek]

Hey Carth.. your on HRT... what dosage is your "normal" dosage..?? I would figure you would want to take enough test to put you in the normal to normal-high range for your age.. and then whenever you wanna do cycles just bump it up.. and then go right back down.. other than nut size.. your body should be fine.. i would figure test would be the best thing to bridge with.. low dose test... what dosage and what kind of test do you use when not on cycle? I am considering using some low test prop to bridge through christmas and start a dbol/var/t3/clen cycle the beginning of the new year..

 

[The_Chemist]

BBF and Needsize are the only two I can think of.

 

[mcr]

Really? You think so? I thought everyone here was sub6% bf and at least 250lbs.

Don't forget the 9 inch penis and 170 IQ.

 

[mcr]

BBF and Needsize are the only two I can think of.

Doesn't Needsize bridge with 20mg/day of var between cycles? His logic being that this still allows for HPTA recovery.

 

[Lowest]

Depending on how I do next summer in my competitions, I may not come off for a while. I stayed on 8 months straight before, came off with only nolva and had perfect bloodwork and test levels after 3 weeks. So, I believe I can handle it. I'll keep test as a base most of the time, 200-250/week while bridging, and then up it to 1g and add other things in when it's time to bulk or cut. But, that's assuming I do well enough to warrant staying on all year

 

[Mr. Black]

I stayed on 8 months straight before, came off with only nolva and had perfect bloodwork and test levels after 3 weekso

just curious what was your test level at?

 

[patsfan1379]

I am on HRT. And I do tested from time to time. And the results are always great!

have you ever tested for fertility? just curious again!!

 

[Smokescreen]

My doc had me on 15mgs a day of Androgel. But I didn't like it. Look...honestly...I am my own Doc now. I give myself what I want. And I get myself checked out. And it all depends on the season on what I use and don't use.

As for fertility...who knows...who cares. The wife HATES little kids. And if she don't want them...then I don't want them.

 

[Dial_tone]

I'm going to stay on 400-500mg/week for 6 months, then I'll get tested again and stay on thru Xmas if the results are good. I was off for 16 years so my system has had a good rest and I have my precautions all laid out.

 

[SuperDawgy]

Don't forget the 9 inch penis and 170 IQ.

Everyone already knows that mine is only 8.5"...so i'm on the short end of that stick, but my 172 IQ and boyish good looks make up for the difference.

 

[Anakin]

Galaxy maybe? He's a freak.

 

[SuperDawgy]

I'm going to stay on 400-500mg/week for 6 months, then I'll get tested again and stay on thru Xmas if the results are good. I was off for 16 years so my system has had a good rest and I have my precautions all laid out.

What are you expecting out of it DT? I had a good buddy go for a little over 6 months at 400mg of enan ew and didn't really notice any growth after a few months.

 

[Lowest]

Mr. Black, my test levels came back at 972 3 weeks after coming off. And I came off with only winny, so it wasn't any test lingering around, that's my natural test. Unfortunately, I have somewhat lower FREE test, so even though I have high natty test levels, I still have to take higher than normal doses of test to see the same results as most people. Doesn't bother me though, I get almost no sides, and test is cheap. Now if I could find a cheap source for proviron to lower my SHBG, then I'd freaky!

 

[Dial_tone]

What are you expecting out of it DT? I had a good buddy go for a little over 6 months at 400mg of enan ew and didn't really notice any growth after a few months.

A lot...all my cycles have been around 500-600/week except one, which wasn't any better than the others. I can grow fine naturally so I can damn sure grow off 5 times my normal test output.

 

[SuperDawgy]

A lot...all my cycles have been around 500-600/week except one, which wasn't any better than the others. I can grow fine naturally so I can damn sure grow off 5 times my normal test output.

I've contemplated it a few times myself. I've never had any probs recovering after even 4 month runs. Maybe a good long test run will add that final 20lbs i'm looking for.

 

[yomama]

What are you expecting out of it DT? I had a good buddy go for a little over 6 months at 400mg of enan ew and didn't really notice any growth after a few months.

lol 400mg of test a week, that's why he wasnt growing. What a waste of a 6month cycle!?

 

[SuperDawgy]

lol 400mg of test a week, that's why he wasnt growing. What a waste of a 6month cycle!?

Dude, thats almost an ignorant statement. Especially right after DT said that he was thinking about 400-500 ew. And for someone that started at 170lbs and 5'2" 400mgs isn't that small of a dose. (BTW, he added about 30lbs total off of that amount, it was just all up front.)

 

[biggeek]

Dude, thats almost an ignorant statement. Especially right after DT said that he was thinking about 400-500 ew. And for someone that started at 170lbs and 5'2" 400mgs isn't that small of a dose. (BTW, he added about 30lbs total off of that amount, it was just all up front.)

Agreed.. i'm around 200lbs.. and I can grow quite nicely on around 250mg/week... 400mg for me did nothing but make my acne 10x worse without any real muscle gains.. i do good with low doses and smart supplementing.. but I think staying on a high dose for a long time isn't smart.. dropping it to 100mg/week or less would be ideal.. atleast that's more than normal.. but not so much to really be worried about sides or really be expensive either.. then when you wanna run another cycle.. bump it back up.. makes sense to me

 

[Dial_tone]

lol 400mg of test a week, that's why he wasnt growing. What a waste of a 6month cycle!?

3 cycles of 200mg test E5D for 10 weeks got me to here:

People who need 2 grams a week to grow should take up golf.

 

[Mythicalbeing]

I took the advice from the bros on the board, and I will be running year around under the supervision of a doctor.

 

[georgie24]

k.i.s.s keep it simple stupid rules apply.

 

[psychedout]

lol 400mg of test a week, that's why he wasnt growing. What a waste of a 6month cycle!?

Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

 

[yomama]

My point was, most wont grow off that much test. Good for DT if it works for him, saves money.

 

[psychedout]

I disagree. I'd bet if you stayed on 400mg of test for a long time you'd be amazed at how far it would go.

Thats like 7-8 times your natural test production.

But, to each his own. I am aware some people won't respond as well though. For example, some people's bodies naturally produce insanely high levels of SHBG.

 

[Lowest]

Yeah that would be me psychedout. 200mg/week of test, I won't notice anything. 500/week might get me 5lbs now if I'm lucky. To get the 15-20lb gain I want to see now, it took 750week last time, doing 1g/week now. Dialtone, congrats that you mananged such a great physique on very low doses, but don't circuitously insult those of us who need to take more, or simply decide to. Besides, bro, I SUCK at golf

 

[hardrock]

I am now. I started HRT a little over a month ago. Started at 600 mgs/week. Will run this for 3 months or so, then drop down to 100-200/week for another 3 months. I will be lowering and raising test while adding other things in for the rest of my life.