Who here has actually juiced and then gone back to prohormones?

[Studly Hungwell]

Yeah, no body ends up doing time over PH. The feds have not really put the smack down on gear as of yet, but who knows when they will? Could be the day you decide to place an order.

For those with jobs that have a "no tolerance policy" stay with PH and sleep well at night.

 

[javaguru]

Four days into an injectable 4-ad-ec cycle and I'm up 3.5 lbs with no bloat (100mg ED). Honestly, it "feels" like I'm on test but with no bloat. Depending on how this cycle goes I may never need any other drug. I just wish that I had access to a better ester to increase solubility and half life.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Four days into an injectable 4-ad-ec cycle and I'm up 3.5 lbs with no bloat (100mg ED). Honestly, it "feels" like I'm on test but with no bloat. Depending on how this cycle goes I may never need any other drug. I just wish that I had access to a better ester to increase solubility and half life.

The everyday shots would be an issure for me too... Did you use a U kit to convert it? It's no-ester? How hard was the process?

I'd like to hear more about this as you go... Maybe start a journal?

 

[javaguru]

The 4-ad I'm using has the ethyl carbonate ester which Bill Roberts estimated would increase the half-life by 24+ hours. The problem with this ester is that it apparently doesn't help that much with solubility. The best I could manage was 50 mg/ml with heating which means 2ml injections daily. I really don't have a problem with ED injections since I've done 1.5cc of 76mg/ml tren everyday.

I wouldn't use a kit, I believe they're a rip off if you know what you're doing. You can make 4g of TA for under eight dollars (plus the cost of the fina) if you buy the supplies from a chemical supply company. I never really liked the pharmakinetics of suspensions and from what I've heard the injections can be painful which is why I opted for a solution, which required an ester.

 

[javaguru]

I just wanted to add that at the seven day mark I'm up 4.5lbs with no increase in body fat and with only a moderate increase in calories.