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Who hates Rap?

Honestly, the finer intricacies of music and music theory are left out of most rap. That is the reason I dislike much of it. However, I do enjoy a good number of rap artists, but not for their musical ability per se.

Personally, I compare everything to classical music. Rap is the furthest current musical genre from classical. Digressing somewhat, much of what I like about many of the more talented acts within the extreme metal genres is their incorporation of numerous classical elements, as well as pure instrumental pieces and amalgamation of operatic vocals intermixed or even seperate from traditional gutteral vocal style.

Rap is good social, popular, dance, lyrical, etc music. But in terms of composition it is severely lacking.

To anyone who might know... has Dre done any engineering or producing work outside of the rap scene? I have heard from... well, everyone and everywhere... that he is a mastermind in the sound studio. Does he have a theoretical background, or does he just rely on his experience and natural talent and 'ear' for his genre? Ie. could he engineer and produce a blues and jazz group, a classic rock group, a country group, and a rap group on a somewhat similar ground?
 
samoth said:
To anyone who might know... has Dre done any engineering or producing work outside of the rap scene? I have heard from... well, everyone and everywhere... that he is a mastermind in the sound studio. Does he have a theoretical background, or does he just rely on his experience and natural talent and 'ear' for his genre? Ie. could he engineer and produce a blues and jazz group, a classic rock group, a country group, and a rap group on a somewhat similar ground?

samoth said:
To anyone who might know... has Dre done any engineering or producing work outside of the rap scene? I have heard from... well, everyone and everywhere... that he is a mastermind in the sound studio. Does he have a theoretical background, or does he just rely on his experience and natural talent and 'ear' for his genre? Ie. could he engineer and produce a blues and jazz group, a classic rock group, a country group, and a rap group on a somewhat similar ground?

He had worked on R&B acts for his labels, and it's rumored that he might do a heavy metal album for some group. I believe he could engineer & produce an act of almost any genre. I know that Dre can play the piano.

His consistency in having quality albums and singles with good sales are mainly due to his work ethic and pefectionism. He's been known to make performers redo their verses over and over until it is PERFECT. Eve ran out of a booth crying during the recording of "Let Me Blow Ya Mind". He demands the same quality in his own work as well, so the songs are almost always on point.

Dre has produced so many countless hits that it would be almost impossible to list them all. If you want to sample his R&B work, check out: "Addicted" - Truth Hurts & "Fast Lane" - Bilal.

His rap work started in '82 with the World Class Wreckin Cru until now. His final album "Detox" is due in 2004. "The Chronic" and "Chronic 2001" were his classics. "Concrete Roots", "Back in the Day", and "First Round Knockoutt" were all compliation albums. He did most of the producing for NWA 86-91, went solo, founded Death Row, & made "The Chronic" in 92, produced Snoops album in '93, sold Death Row & founded Aftermath in '95, dropped "Chronic 2001" in 1999.

Check out these songs if you've never really listened to Dre:
"Nuthin But a G Thang", "Big Egos", "Keep Their Heads Ringin", "Lil Ghetto Boy", "Still D.R.E.", "Whats the Difference", Put it On Me", "Let Me Ride", "The Next Episode", "The Watcher", "Lyrical Gangbang", "Deep Cover", "Xxplosive", "Zoom", "Deeez Nuuuts", "Bad Guys Always Die" (feat. Eminem)

Other songs he's done:
"Just Dippin" - Snoop, "Cleaning Out My Closet" - Eminem, "Let Me Blow Ya Mind" - Eve, "Always Into Somethin" & "Chin Check" - NWA, "Hate In Yo Eyes" - Mack 10
 
Stangfriik said:
it's nothing but ghetto poetry with a bunch of beats thrown in. Nothing more, nothing less.

No, that's what it USED to be. I remember listening to it back then a bit with Public Enemy and KRS-One. They would talk about stories about how difficult life was in their ghetto.

Now, it "appears" to be just about "bitches and hoes".
 
perkele said:


It ain't that difficult.

Why Rap if you can sing? If rappers do have something to say then they should sing it like fucking Marvin Gaye. But cause they can't....

Perfect example of rappers who cannot sing.....

KID ROCK

I like DMX myself.. Because I'm an angry old man.
 
there is more to rap and hip-hop than 'money and bitches' etc.
perhaps those who hate this type of music haven't heard enough of it to make a good judgement about it.

try listening to dear mama (2pac) as well as crossroads (bonethugs) and see if you change your mind
 
milo34 said:
there is more to rap and hip-hop than 'money and bitches' etc.
perhaps those who hate this type of music haven't heard enough of it to make a good judgement about it.

try listening to dear mama (2pac) as well as crossroads (bonethugs) and see if you change your mind
I'm not doubting that there's probably more out there. But, it seems that the "bitches and hoes" is the only one that gets any air play while the more "meaningful" messages get lost in the overplaying of the other one.
 
I don't hate it, but most of it is about riches, expensive cars, a nice guitar and a bunch of bitches waiting for you and your thugz in a huge treemansion.
 
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