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TravFlex91
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I find it a little harder than smith or barbell..
Buildingup24
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From the video it looks like it has the natural curve the barbell would take from unracking to touching chest- I'd def try it out my gym has a similar machine but its an incline version--it hits my upper chest so well!
TravFlex91
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I honestly prefer this machine. The weight seems heavier on it, your forced to start from your "sticking" position I think it could be useful for building some wicked strength.
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Evan Tipps
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The weight seems heavier? So you can rep 4 plates on flat barbell?
TravFlex91
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No I rep 3 plates 12 times.
I push 4 plates 5-6 times.
I pushed 4 plates and a 25 once on barbell.
What's hard to understand.
You still have to stabilize. One difference is your wrist isn't supenated.
Thats real weight on there, no other way to disguise it.
You start halfway through your "normal Rom"
Where you would normally get stuck.
It's a wicked machine
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Evan Tipps
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I'm just skeptical about machines.. I seen a guy squat 1k on some squat machine. You think he could free weight squat that? Hell no. But this machine seems pretty legit
TravFlex91
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I hear ya bro I barely use cables lmao.
You know how hard it is to do back with pull ups only?
I use this because its challenging with a better contraction, well IMO anyway
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Evan Tipps
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Hahaha I agree fuck cables. If you cant go heavy on it why do it! My gym doesn't really have machines..
This machine would be excellent for the person with shoulder issues. The neutral grip is extremely helpful in those cases. However you are still only lifting a percentage of the weight that is actually on the machine (plates) This is true of any machine that has a central pivot point. It would be more nearly the weight of the plates if they were directly over your hands....
Not necessarily a "bad" machine but still any person will get more from the same movement using free weights.
Not necessarily a "bad" machine but still any person will get more from the same movement using free weights.
TravFlex91
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I was actually thinking of mimicking the same movement or close to it with dumbells, seeing how it felt and the percentage of weight I could do.. Because when I compared to the smith I was doing the same numbers. But I agree strongly with what you said.
TravFlex91
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I thoroughly enjoy it. Incorporated it my last 2 chest days, both days I was very well worked got a massive pump and my chest was definitely
Sore haha
Using dbls with a neutral grip is excellent and thats exactly what I do with my old beat up shoulders. But you will need to limit your range of motion. Do it so that your elbows do not go lower then your shoulder blades and no need to lock out at the top. Actually doing it this way is much better at keeping tension on the muscle group too.
dang that looks freaking amazing!
I wish my gym had one of those.
I wish my gym had one of those.
TravFlex91
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I figured it was good for such.
I felt so much more pumped, as I'd I was utilizing my pec more in a sense
Hmmmm...let me guess...Snap Fitness? I train at a Snap Fitness here in my town when I can't get to Powerhouse Gym, and they have that exact machine, an incline one too. It is good for variety, but does nothing for stabilizer muscles or mimic bench pressing very well, it is like a knockoff Hammer Strength machine...I press 4 plates for my work sets as well...no big deal.
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Sherk
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One of the gyms I go to has one aswell. It's way easier than the traditional bench. All the young noob kids swarm them because the can put 2 45lb plates on either side and rep them. When they change their grip to the opposite of the guy in this video they have to drop to one 45lb plate on either side. the incline version does hit your upper chest very well though. That's the only one I incorporate into my routine when I'm at that gym.
TravFlex91
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When I switch my grip I still rep 3 plates.
Exactly...do a few sets on this, then switch to DB Flat Bench...you will feel the difference, as you will feel deeper muscle fibers, more tricep incorporation, and stabilizer muscles working...and cables have their place in training as well, so don't knock cables...I would opt for free weights and cables over machines any day...although I do like variety.
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TravFlex91
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I'll have to try that definitelt
Ya know, I have to disagree with this. No offense at all, but I think you can get a tremendous squeeze using cables and practice very good form when using machines and/or lighter weights. If you're just gonna go balls to the wall heavy all the time, you're bound to lose form. And I don't see how you can harden up just going heavy all the time.
I use this machine to superset with on another seated chest press machine with good results. Also you can straddle the bench (standing) and do tricep work on it. I don't see the vid. anymore so I don't remember if the handles were straight or angled.
