Here are some thoughts since one rarely sees guys asking good questions like this one.
If you can make solid gains at 250mg - why go up until you need to? I think very few newbies want to turn into a beast overnight and become the walking posterboy for roids and sides.
10 lbs. is a major alteration on the body and very noticable (esp. on a newb). 20 lbs. has often been attained with newbs running 250-500mg. Why gain 30 in 2 months? Think about 30 lbs. of steak on the table. Doesn't sound healthy to me although I'm sure someone will come up with a dingbat theory that it helps by making the heart work harder.
What do I think are reasonable first and 2nd cycles: 500 mg weekly tops. Look at the gains you got from 250 - very solid. If you find you need more, add more next cycle. 2 drugs maximum as all the cycling theory on this board probably amounts to less than a 3% difference if that and a giant time waste. Focus on important stuff like training. Basic cycles are not rocket science.
Time between cycles - does the phrase minimum mean anything to people? Time on = time off is the minimum responsible limit. That would probably mean that it would be a whole lot better to wait longer. You might even find that minimal time off is why everyone has to keep racheting the dosages up and you have small guys taking 1.5 grams. I've taken periods of 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years between cycles and let me tell you that I gained like mad on 1/2 the dosage after 1 year off (and I was bigger and leaner before beginning so genetic potential should work against me). I can't illustrate how important this is as I've seen guys who play time-on/off come off for longer periods and lose major poundage while guys who take it slow can go natural and still maintain their muscle (providing no one is above gent. limit).
Just some thoughts.
If you can make solid gains at 250mg - why go up until you need to? I think very few newbies want to turn into a beast overnight and become the walking posterboy for roids and sides.
10 lbs. is a major alteration on the body and very noticable (esp. on a newb). 20 lbs. has often been attained with newbs running 250-500mg. Why gain 30 in 2 months? Think about 30 lbs. of steak on the table. Doesn't sound healthy to me although I'm sure someone will come up with a dingbat theory that it helps by making the heart work harder.
What do I think are reasonable first and 2nd cycles: 500 mg weekly tops. Look at the gains you got from 250 - very solid. If you find you need more, add more next cycle. 2 drugs maximum as all the cycling theory on this board probably amounts to less than a 3% difference if that and a giant time waste. Focus on important stuff like training. Basic cycles are not rocket science.
Time between cycles - does the phrase minimum mean anything to people? Time on = time off is the minimum responsible limit. That would probably mean that it would be a whole lot better to wait longer. You might even find that minimal time off is why everyone has to keep racheting the dosages up and you have small guys taking 1.5 grams. I've taken periods of 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years between cycles and let me tell you that I gained like mad on 1/2 the dosage after 1 year off (and I was bigger and leaner before beginning so genetic potential should work against me). I can't illustrate how important this is as I've seen guys who play time-on/off come off for longer periods and lose major poundage while guys who take it slow can go natural and still maintain their muscle (providing no one is above gent. limit).
Just some thoughts.