Which Prohormones are good?

[FarBeyondDriven]

BUNK

 

[norr]

Here's a moderatly priced, reasonably safe and (bordeline) decently effective "stack"
1) 4-AD Nasal spray (Psycho-diol by Ergopharm) 3 sprays per nostril in the morning. It skips the first liver pass and gives more agression than the oral form. 6 puffs render about 25mg of 4-AD which is equal to 200mg taken oraly (give or take). It's very fast acting and has a halflife of 2-3 hours, which means you feel an energy boost right away (15-30 mins) and it's totally gone by evening = very little suppression.
2) Arimidex or Femara half a tab EOD.
3) Finasteride 1mg/day or 1.25 if you get Proscar and split it in 4
4) Clomid 50mg first day, after that 25mg EOD. Since it has the halflife of approx. 2 days this will result in a steady relatively low level, just enough to compensate the negative effects of arimidex/femara on the cholesterol and just enough to null the minimal suppression you might still experience from 4-AD.
5) ZMA or just Zinc before going to bed. I recommend Opti-Zinc from beyond-a-century.
6) Optional: Avena Sativa 1g/day. It is said to compete with test for the SHBG, resulting in higher free test levels. Cannot confirm that from experience though.
7) ALA 2g/day

This together with high protein/medium to high carbs/low fat will put some pounds on you, how many it really depends...

 

[Travbedaman]

Here's a moderatly priced, reasonably safe and (bordeline) decently effective "stack"
1) 4-AD Nasal spray (Psycho-diol by Ergopharm) 3 sprays per nostril in the morning. It skips the first liver pass and gives more agression than the oral form. 6 puffs render about 25mg of 4-AD which is equal to 200mg taken oraly (give or take). It's very fast acting and has a halflife of 2-3 hours, which means you feel an energy boost right away (15-30 mins) and it's totally gone by evening = very little suppression.
2) Arimidex or Femara half a tab EOD.
3) Finasteride 1mg/day or 1.25 if you get Proscar and split it in 4
4) Clomid 50mg first day, after that 25mg EOD. Since it has the halflife of approx. 2 days this will result in a steady relatively low level, just enough to compensate the negative effects of arimidex/femara on the cholesterol and just enough to null the minimal suppression you might still experience from 4-AD.
5) ZMA or just Zinc before going to bed. I recommend Opti-Zinc from beyond-a-century.
6) Optional: Avena Sativa 1g/day. It is said to compete with test for the SHBG, resulting in higher free test levels. Cannot confirm that from experience though.
7) ALA 2g/day

This together with high protein/medium to high carbs/low fat will put some pounds on you, how many it really depends...

While there is nothing wrong with this "stack"...but if you are gonna recommend the Arimidex and Clomid at least get the boy on some 1-AD ot 1-Test....not some weak nasal 4-AD, even some topical 4-AD would be pretty save and still relatively non-suppressive.

 

[Reebok]

pro-hormones? I figured it this way; they claim to have no sides, how can they increase your androgen/test levels without the sides associated with elevated levels of hormones? No sides=no effect.

 

[the UNDERTAKER]

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[rippedtrojan]

here's some good prohormones:

test
fina
eq
dbol
winny
deca

and too many to list here

 

[norr]

While there is nothing wrong with this "stack"...but if you are gonna recommend the Arimidex and Clomid at least get the boy on some 1-AD ot 1-Test....not some weak nasal 4-AD, even some topical 4-AD would be pretty save and still relatively non-suppressive.

I see your point, but 1-AD and 1-test are very suppressive, as liver toxic as 17orals, hard on the hairline and they also give some irritation of the urinary tract, which might indicate renal toxicity as well. I would rather see the guy on 25mg of dbol and the rest of the stack, but he said prohormones... 4-AD is more for the preworkout boost, arimidex is probably gonna be responsible for most of the gains this stack migtht yield. I have seen people improving their physique on Arimidex ALONE, it kicks any prohormone's ass anytime.

 

[supertech69]

If you're going to need Anti-E's & clomid & all the other shit, why not just go for the real thing. It's cheaper, it's much less of a pain in the ass & most importantly, IT'S EFFECTIVE! You're gonna end up like a whole bunch of us, waste your money on shit for a while, then end up using AAS anyways. So, you might as well go for the gains now & save the money. Spend that extra money of food.

 

[pa1ad]

While there is nothing wrong with this "stack"...but if you are gonna recommend the Arimidex and Clomid at least get the boy on some 1-AD ot 1-Test....not some weak nasal 4-AD, even some topical 4-AD would be pretty save and still relatively non-suppressive.

I had a doctor recently told me that he thought nasal 4-AD taken several times a day is stronger then 1-AD. He had many patients try both at different time periods. I do not have personal experience with taking 4-AD throughout the day nasal so i cannot agree or disagree. Also, i have had many people who used nasal prohormones like this rave/

However, I don't really sell the cyclo diol powder or nasal bottles anymore (nor does anyone else_) so its pretty much a moot point. Besides, spraying shit up your nose all day can get to be a hassle

 

[pa1ad]

pro-hormones? I figured it this way; they claim to have no sides, how can they increase your androgen/test levels without the sides associated with elevated levels of hormones? No sides=no effect.

Who claims to say they have no sides? Who is "they"? I don't appreciate your generalizations