Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've been on a low carb diet for 3 weeks. I've lost a total of 7lbs. I'm going for another 13 so i can lose 20lbs in total. After I reach my goal, i wanted to look into some prohormones. Are these any good? If so, which ones would u all recommend? Brand, type? Thanx for any info!!
Which Prohormones are good?
- Thread starter DAHULK
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Most of them arent worth the comtainer there in. Some however seem to work fine, but for decent results you need 2-4 times what the recommended dose is and at that dose you suffer the same, if not worse sides than AAS. Not to mention its expensive as hell.
Fat Bastard
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yeah, at effective doses it gets really $$$$
I do have to say that i did feel a little aggressive
on 1-ad at 3 cap/day(or maybe i was just irratated
for geting fucked!! But anyway you would probably
need a gram a day and you could probably do a mild
anavar cycle cheaper
I do have to say that i did feel a little aggressive
on 1-ad at 3 cap/day(or maybe i was just irratated
for geting fucked!! But anyway you would probably
need a gram a day and you could probably do a mild
anavar cycle cheaper
I've tried many prohormones and usually would gain some strength but not too much weight. That was until I tried 1-AD. That shit definitely worked. Both my workout partner and myself gained about 15lbs in 6 weeks. Although you will hold water, it also helps with lubricating the joints. BTW, plan on getting some clomid as I relate 1-AD to Decca, it shuts you down, you gain size and strength and you hold water. But you will definitely need Clomid.
Like Argent said, try the supps board, there's much more info there.
Like Argent said, try the supps board, there's much more info there.
RussianBro
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Zyglamail said:
agree with you, bro...
being there, done it... waste of money... I think that everyone who tried prohormones eventually end up using AS. I wish I didn't waste those thousands on stupid prohormones, where I got gyno because I upped my doses to be effective. What a waste of money, time, and energy...
DAHULK, brotha, be realistic... Get into AS and you will have twice as much (or even bigger) results with not as nearly as much of sides as from Prohormones...
Good luck to you, bro...
Studly Hungwell
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I went to massnutrition.com and got 3 bottles of AD-1 for 36.50 each. Thats about a month supply if you take twice the amount it says on the bottle. It will not give you gyno. Use proviron through cycle for sex drive and clomid therapy after.
Best thing about it is you won't get scammed or fucked by customs.
Best thing about it is you won't get scammed or fucked by customs.
FarBeyondDriven
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norr
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Here's a moderatly priced, reasonably safe and (bordeline) decently effective "stack"
1) 4-AD Nasal spray (Psycho-diol by Ergopharm) 3 sprays per nostril in the morning. It skips the first liver pass and gives more agression than the oral form. 6 puffs render about 25mg of 4-AD which is equal to 200mg taken oraly (give or take). It's very fast acting and has a halflife of 2-3 hours, which means you feel an energy boost right away (15-30 mins) and it's totally gone by evening = very little suppression.
2) Arimidex or Femara half a tab EOD.
3) Finasteride 1mg/day or 1.25 if you get Proscar and split it in 4
4) Clomid 50mg first day, after that 25mg EOD. Since it has the halflife of approx. 2 days this will result in a steady relatively low level, just enough to compensate the negative effects of arimidex/femara on the cholesterol and just enough to null the minimal suppression you might still experience from 4-AD.
5) ZMA or just Zinc before going to bed. I recommend Opti-Zinc from beyond-a-century.
6) Optional: Avena Sativa 1g/day. It is said to compete with test for the SHBG, resulting in higher free test levels. Cannot confirm that from experience though.
7) ALA 2g/day
This together with high protein/medium to high carbs/low fat will put some pounds on you, how many it really depends...
1) 4-AD Nasal spray (Psycho-diol by Ergopharm) 3 sprays per nostril in the morning. It skips the first liver pass and gives more agression than the oral form. 6 puffs render about 25mg of 4-AD which is equal to 200mg taken oraly (give or take). It's very fast acting and has a halflife of 2-3 hours, which means you feel an energy boost right away (15-30 mins) and it's totally gone by evening = very little suppression.
2) Arimidex or Femara half a tab EOD.
3) Finasteride 1mg/day or 1.25 if you get Proscar and split it in 4
4) Clomid 50mg first day, after that 25mg EOD. Since it has the halflife of approx. 2 days this will result in a steady relatively low level, just enough to compensate the negative effects of arimidex/femara on the cholesterol and just enough to null the minimal suppression you might still experience from 4-AD.
5) ZMA or just Zinc before going to bed. I recommend Opti-Zinc from beyond-a-century.
6) Optional: Avena Sativa 1g/day. It is said to compete with test for the SHBG, resulting in higher free test levels. Cannot confirm that from experience though.
7) ALA 2g/day
This together with high protein/medium to high carbs/low fat will put some pounds on you, how many it really depends...
Travbedaman
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norr said:
While there is nothing wrong with this "stack"...but if you are gonna recommend the Arimidex and Clomid at least get the boy on some 1-AD ot 1-Test....not some weak nasal 4-AD, even some topical 4-AD would be pretty save and still relatively non-suppressive.
the UNDERTAKER
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rippedtrojan
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here's some good prohormones:
test
fina
eq
dbol
winny
deca
and too many to list here
test
fina
eq
dbol
winny
deca
and too many to list here
norr
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I see your point, but 1-AD and 1-test are very suppressive, as liver toxic as 17orals, hard on the hairline and they also give some irritation of the urinary tract, which might indicate renal toxicity as well. I would rather see the guy on 25mg of dbol and the rest of the stack, but he said prohormones... 4-AD is more for the preworkout boost, arimidex is probably gonna be responsible for most of the gains this stack migtht yield. I have seen people improving their physique on Arimidex ALONE, it kicks any prohormone's ass anytime.Travbedaman said:
supertech69
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If you're going to need Anti-E's & clomid & all the other shit, why not just go for the real thing. It's cheaper, it's much less of a pain in the ass & most importantly, IT'S EFFECTIVE! You're gonna end up like a whole bunch of us, waste your money on shit for a while, then end up using AAS anyways. So, you might as well go for the gains now & save the money. Spend that extra money of food.
Travbedaman said:
I had a doctor recently told me that he thought nasal 4-AD taken several times a day is stronger then 1-AD. He had many patients try both at different time periods. I do not have personal experience with taking 4-AD throughout the day nasal so i cannot agree or disagree. Also, i have had many people who used nasal prohormones like this rave/
However, I don't really sell the cyclo diol powder or nasal bottles anymore (nor does anyone else_) so its pretty much a moot point. Besides, spraying shit up your nose all day can get to be a hassle
supertech69 said:
anabolic steroids are schedule III controlled substances and the purchase of them or possession of them without a prescription is considered a felony.
anti-estrogens and other accessory drugs are not scheduled so the risks are not the same. Prohormones of course are legal for sale over the counter
blaster220
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Zyglamail said:
Agreed.
RussianBro
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pa1ad said:
What kind of doc is it that recommends prohormones? My family doc was short and sweet after I told him about my dreams of getting bigger: p-hormones are crap, roids are good, but will not prescribe... Is it a sport doc?
The problem that I see with prohormes that they work for some people (hell, it worked for me). But how much good do they really do to you? Not much compare to AS. Yes, they are not legal (as you stated in one of your replies), but they don't give me as many sides as p-hormones did (That's a separate story I could tell).
But I understand that you sell these puppies and that is why you defend them so much...
This post SHOULD NOT have appered on ANABOLICS board at first place... Thats what I know for SURE...
Fukkenshredded
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Convert your 4-AD to an injectable and you might see some results. Anything else is a complete waste of time and money.
Stan Ozolol
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waste of money.
