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Which is more safe winny or tren?
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AleaveR
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Heres some input from someone in a similar situation. I let myself get up tp abput 33% BF. I started eating a lot better and wroking out, also cardio 3 x week and in 5 months I got my bodyfat down from 33 to 24.5%.
At this point I talked to a family Dr who treats HIV patients with AAS and he uses himself and asked him if I could benefit from using them. He said I could and before I started, he had me do a series of blood test, one of which showed that I had naturally low testosterone. He actually feels that the low test levels could have been contributing to my obesity.
Anyways, on 10-12-03 I started a cycle of 200mg Deca and 250mg CYP EW for 12 weeks under the Dr's supervision (I frontloaded the Test @ 400mg weeks 1-2).
I have continued to maintain a clean diet and have actually uped my calories a little. Before I started the cycle I was eating about 180-200g protein/day but I have increased it since to about 250g. I stay away from high GI carbs and have continued to eat about 5-7 times per day. I am also supplementing with glucorell, fish oil, multi vitamin, flax oil, and g-plenish.
Right now I am in the 6 week of my cycle and I have gained about 8lbs but my bodyfat has gone down from 24.5 to 20.8% yesterday morning. My bench has increased about 55lbs and all my other lifts have increased as well.
Just my experience with AAS's.....
At this point I talked to a family Dr who treats HIV patients with AAS and he uses himself and asked him if I could benefit from using them. He said I could and before I started, he had me do a series of blood test, one of which showed that I had naturally low testosterone. He actually feels that the low test levels could have been contributing to my obesity.
Anyways, on 10-12-03 I started a cycle of 200mg Deca and 250mg CYP EW for 12 weeks under the Dr's supervision (I frontloaded the Test @ 400mg weeks 1-2).
I have continued to maintain a clean diet and have actually uped my calories a little. Before I started the cycle I was eating about 180-200g protein/day but I have increased it since to about 250g. I stay away from high GI carbs and have continued to eat about 5-7 times per day. I am also supplementing with glucorell, fish oil, multi vitamin, flax oil, and g-plenish.
Right now I am in the 6 week of my cycle and I have gained about 8lbs but my bodyfat has gone down from 24.5 to 20.8% yesterday morning. My bench has increased about 55lbs and all my other lifts have increased as well.
Just my experience with AAS's.....
Here's what I'd suggest:
Go with the test prop 100 eod and tren 75 eod for the first 4 weeks. Then switch to Winny 50 ed and clen (around 100-120mcg) for the duration. Remember clen only works on a calorie deficient diet. Lots of protein, lots of cardio. I think at 30%bf you'll probably need a couple cycles to achieve your goal of 10-12%bf. Be patient. Take a break of 6-8 weeks after your first cylce. During this time keep your diet clean and continue doing regular cardio. good luck bro.
Go with the test prop 100 eod and tren 75 eod for the first 4 weeks. Then switch to Winny 50 ed and clen (around 100-120mcg) for the duration. Remember clen only works on a calorie deficient diet. Lots of protein, lots of cardio. I think at 30%bf you'll probably need a couple cycles to achieve your goal of 10-12%bf. Be patient. Take a break of 6-8 weeks after your first cylce. During this time keep your diet clean and continue doing regular cardio. good luck bro.
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lartinos
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Good luck BIGGUTT. JK
magman1
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yeah, and then what? just cuz this is the anabolic board, doesnt mean anabolics are always the answer...say u use a boatload of gear to get to 15%...then what? dnp? u can naturually cut down...use AAS to break ur genetic limit, and listen to someone who did not wait...me! and at 300lbs, ur blood pressure on a cycle will be through the roof...sounds like you have a lil muscle to spare thodali said:
As of right now I am holding off on AAS, I am ordering the "Ultimite Fta Removal Kit" from the AF store, so hopefully that will help me out. I have lost 62lbs. in the past using just Xenadrine w/ ephedra, so I can do it again. Once I get to 250lbs. or so I am hitting the test.
Thanks for all the help.
Thanks for all the help.
