Which is more safe winny or tren?

[BIGNUTT]

I have thought about getting t-rex, yohimburn, and aaa the glutamine pills.

I may go ahead and get my gear and use it when I get a little less bf, maybe 15%.

 

[DaddyX]

Not even a test only cycle?

Since most including me believe it would help burn fat, plus make more muscle to burn more fat, and make more muscle to out weigh the muscle lost from low carb./high protien diet. How is test bad at higher bf% person?

I am 300lbs. 6'4" and already have alot of muscle. I am on a great cutter diet and I exercise like mad. I am losing eight so I would be probably 275lbs. by the time I have everthing I need to start the cycle.

AND I am not sure I am 30%bf, just a guess. For an exampl I am 300lbs. and wear a size 40 pants, but I have a very large bone structure.

no, not even a test only cycle. not to be a jerk but you are concidered obese. please take my advice and bring your bf down naturally. its going to be much safer considering the state your body is at right now. goodluck, remember just eat right, train smart and it will come down in a short time. yes you could try t-rex also

 

[Fukkenshredded]

And now for the actual answer.

Tren, mg for mg, is much safer than winstrol.

There is very little evidence supporting the notion that trenbelone is even moderately toxic. True, there are anecdotal reports of kidney stress, but logic simply does not place trenbelone at the root of the issue there. A more likely culprit is oxidized methylcellulose, or even excessive BA or BB.

In any event, trenbelone exerts minimal stress on the liver (if any), and has a less profound impact on HDL/LDL ratios.

Moreover, tren does not dehydrate the body as dramatically as winstrol, nor is the hematocrit level impacted as severely.

Winstrol is a very harsh drug, contrary to popular belief.

Those who have run both and gotten regular bloodwork will corroborate this position, with very few exceptions.

 

[DaddyX]

And now for the actual answer.

Tren, mg for mg, is much safer than winstrol.

There is very little evidence supporting the notion that trenbelone is even moderately toxic. True, there are anecdotal reports of kidney stress, but logic simply does not place trenbelone at the root of the issue there. A more likely culprit is oxidized methylcellulose, or even excessive BA or BB.

In any event, trenbelone exerts minimal stress on the liver (if any), and has a less profound impact on HDL/LDL ratios.

Moreover, tren does not dehydrate the body as dramatically as winstrol, nor is the hematocrit level impacted as severely.

Winstrol is a very harsh drug, contrary to popular belief.

Those who have run both and gotten regular bloodwork will corroborate this position, with very few exceptions.

yeah i got a little off topic good answer

 

[BIGNUTT]

no, not even a test only cycle. not to be a jerk but you are concidered obese

No offense, it will help me keep losing weight.

What is t-rex?

 

[lartinos]

Yeah, I know what you're saying Daddyx. But..... if I was as fat as him and it was clearly a gentic thing where losing bodyfat was impossible, I'd jump on prop+tren whilst cycling T3 and clen. Maybe even throw in an af blitz pack as well. That combo is guranteed to drop alot of fat.

 

[DaddyX]

No offense, it will help me keep losing weight.

What is t-rex?

hey dude, if you weigh that much you probably do have alot of muscle. T-Rex is thermorexin from the AF store. its a fat burnwer and people love it. bro if you could cut up a bit you could be huge, a good huge goodluck buddy

 

[BIGNUTT]

Hey man I appreciate it.

I think now is a good time to leave this topic alone, but i have been getting very different remarks on this same topic:

http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=79210#post79210

Look on the 2nd page, please don't start anything. I am just wondering why two views can be sooo different. I am healthy by the way, well maybe the blood test lied?

 

[BIGNUTT]

hey dude, if you weigh that much you probably do have alot of muscle.

I guess Im 21, with 18" Bi's (not pumped) and I bench 450lbs., I don't squat much anymore, but I assure you my legs are big. My calves on the other hand are bigger than alot of pros (I have a 2.5" shelf sticking out of my leg, lol!)

 

[DaddyX]

LOL, JGUNS over there is an idiot. he thinks pro bodybuilders get over 30% bodyfat in the offseason. haha, he needs to really start researching before giving any advice. does he even know what 30% BF is. Ronnie coleman in the off season still has a visible six pack as well as alot of pros do. im not going to start anything but if he think he will smoke any vet here in a debate he is sadly mistaken. o well, try out what you think is best for yourself. BTW i didnt read alot of that i just skimmed through what numbnuts said