Which is better for gaining sheer mass?

[lookinfit75]

I am curious as to which of these two compounds is best for putting on sheer mass: Dianabol or Anadrol50? How much would be a good dose on the average for either compound and how long would the cycle last (I am assumimg that it's no more than 4 weeks for either one of the two compounds being that they are both rather toxic, especially the A50)? Also, afterwards, which one would have the most "keepable" gains. I know that the gains from both are a lot of water but I am sure that in cojunction with other compounds (Primo for example) some of the gains might be retained long after the cycle. I am also assuming that Test is a must with either one of these compounds which also brings up the question of tha dosage and ester.

This is of course a hypothetical situation and would be based on someone who is a novice lifter (roughly 4-5 years experience) in his mid 30's, in good health with a few cylcle under his belt.
Thanks guys for your input.

 

[Unit 2005]

Anadrol has to be the strongest steroid and will put more "sheer size" on your frame in the shortest time, people literally explode using oxymethlone....its mostly water weight though and you will loose most of it shortly after. Dbol is also very strong, in my opinion the better, safer option.

However, niehter of these should be used on thier own. Doing so would give you big strength and weight gains but 90% of what you gain you will loose after you stop the drug. Instead both compounds are used to kick start longer cycles, the first 3-6 weeks of a 12 week cycle. Since injectable compunds tend to take 3 weeks to produce results, stacking 20-50mg Dbol per day or 50-150mg A50 per day would give results from pretty much the first week. Oxymethlone may be stronger but its very harsh on your body, id stay clear. 4 weeks of dbol will give you good results, exp if used alongside test.

Read up on steroids my friend.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I am currently on dbol 50mgs daily alongside test and I am not really holding any water. Of course I am taking certain supplements to ensure this. I never did like a-bombs purely because I get so much more acne with it than I do with dbol and I get quite a lot from dbol

 

[halfcenturian]

Anadrol is the only steroid I will never take again. I tjust fucks me up . Dbol is better all around. Throw some Test or Primo in there, or your gains will go as fast as they come.

 

[needsize]

Anadrol has to be the strongest steroid and will put more "sheer size" on your frame in the shortest time, people literally explode using oxymethlone....its mostly water weight though and you will loose most of it shortly after. Dbol is also very strong, in my opinion the better, safer option.

However, niehter of these should be used on thier own. Doing so would give you big strength and weight gains but 90% of what you gain you will loose after you stop the drug. Instead both compounds are used to kick start longer cycles, the first 3-6 weeks of a 12 week cycle. Since injectable compunds tend to take 3 weeks to produce results, stacking 20-50mg Dbol per day or 50-150mg A50 per day would give results from pretty much the first week. Oxymethlone may be stronger but its very harsh on your body, id stay clear. 4 weeks of dbol will give you good results, exp if used alongside test.

Read up on steroids my friend.

I agree that dbol is the better steroid, but read nelsons post on this page about dbol only cycles, there is no basis at all to the myth that dbol only cycles wont give you keepable size...its a very anabolic drug, and the more anabolic a drug is, the more actual muscle you will build

 

[Big_BK]

good to see you around needsize.

 

[dabuffguy]

You can run dbol for 6 weeks and keep your gains. You will unavoidably lose water weight, which is a good thing anyway.

Whoever says you lose all your gains in dbol is wrong. You lose water weight. You keep your muscle gains, and most of the strength provided you have a good PCT.

 

[lookinfit75]

You can run Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 6 weeks and keep your gains. You will unavoidably lose water weight, which is a good thing anyway.

Whoever says you lose all your gains in Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is wrong. You lose water weight. You keep your muscle gains, and most of the strength provided you have a good PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Thanks guys for the input. Unit2005, what gave you the impression that I need to "read more about roids"? I think I posed a very reasonable question with the correct criteria i.e. the implementaion of other compounds and possible length of cycle.

Halfcenturian,
I am very curious as to what happened to you that would make you never want to touch A50 again. Can you please elaborate more on what your cycle was the included A50 and what the negs were as a result?

Needsize,
Can you elaborate more as to why you feel Dbol is a better compound? Less, negs? More retention of gains? Combo of both? Cycle suggestions?


So there are two schools of thought here, One is that Dbol/A50 should be used to kick start one's cycle and the other that says it can be used as a stand alone. Has anyone tried both protocols and if so, what was the success or lack thereof.

Thanks guys for answering my questions. I can read all the books in the world (which I am pretty damn close to doing, anyone have a copy of Dan Ducaine's book they want to let a bro borrow lol?) but there's nothing like first hand knowledge which some you cats poses.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

I agree that dbol is the better steroid, but read nelsons post on this page about dbol only cycles, there is no basis at all to the myth that dbol only cycles wont give you keepable size...its a very anabolic drug, and the more anabolic a drug is, the more actual muscle you will build

agreed, dont like when people say dbol only cycle is waste, off course with test its better, but dbol is very anabolic, will give u strength gains which will lead to hypertrophy, good pct will help u hold on to gains, they didnt call it the breakfast of champions for no reason,

abombs most report it makes them feel like crap, but abombs are very anabolic

dbol is better imho

 

[ALIN]

ANADROL puts size and strenght on me like nothing else can.

 

[Unit 2005]

Was'nt meaning that comment in a bad way, just advising you read as much as you can and get fully clued up before taking anything. There was nothing wrong with your original question at all, i was only trying to help bro. I think you would find it hard to find anyone who will argue against anadrol being the strongest oral steroid. Like i said, id go with the Dbol.

Personally i think using either oral on their own you will loose most of what you gain regardless of pct.

 

[needsize]

I feel dbol is better because with anadrol all I do is gain tons of water along with lots of strength, but even if I am still on a heavy cycle, as soon as I drop the anadrol I lose all the size and strength. Where as with dbol I dont gain as much water, and I tend to keep everything I gain

 

[lookinfit75]

I feel Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is better because with anadrol all I do is gain tons of water along with lots of strength, but even if I am still on a heavy cycle, as soon as I drop the anadrol I lose all the size and strength. Where as with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - I dont gain as much water, and I tend to keep everything I gain

... and there you have it.
Needsize,
Thank you very much for clearing that up for me with your personal experience with both. What is your weight in that pic that is your avatar? over 230lbs?

 

[needsize]

... and there you have it.
Needsize,
Thank you very much for clearing that up for me with your personal experience with both. What is your weight in that pic that is your avatar? over 230lbs?

lol...I wish, thats contest shape, I was about 195lbs at 5'8" on that pic

 

[lookinfit75]

lol...I wish, thats contest shape, I was about 195lbs at 5'8" on that pic

That's my little brother's height and weight. You look huge though, good symetry and muscle bellies too, congrats!

 

[needsize]

That's my little brother's height and weight. You look huge though, good symetry and muscle bellies too, congrats!

thanks, being at 3% bf changes things, I am currently around 220lbs at about 8%