Which company do you despise most?

[JKurz1]

Not that I didn't believe you, it's just we get a lot of newbs on here posting shit once and never supporting their "knowledge"....if this is true, let's just say I'm pissed off....big time......ON was def. my protein of choice.

 

[gjohnson5]

Here's where they buy thier protein:34% grade. I was thier raw material purchase agent for years. I'm no rookie in this industry and if you knew what I did about that company you wouldn't "respect" them either.

Forget all that. Have you had your ON tested in a lab and got a result of 8 grams a serving?? Anything else is circumstantial at best and definitly not accurate

 

[Yoda1]

It will test out at 23grams for sure. See...here's how companies do it. The protein is only 34% pure meaning that only about 8grams is whey. The other 66% (15 grams) is left over byproduct from the manufacturing process. These byproducts are usually lactose and milk fractions; most of which is undigestable. That is the reason why some proteins give you gas. These byproducts are technically proteins, in an HPLC test, so therefore the FDA allows them to include it in the protein count. It's a loophole that supplement companies use to thier advantage. Protein bars use this trick a lot. Gelatin is a protein but has absolutely no BV value. It bumps up the protein content and gives the bar moisture.

 

[gjohnson5]

It will test out at 23grams for sure. See...here's how companies do it. The protein is only 34% pure meaning that only about 8grams is whey. The other 66% (15 grams) is left over byproduct from the manufacturing process. These byproducts are usually lactose and milk fractions; most of which is undigestable. That is the reason why some proteins give you gas. These byproducts are technically proteins, in an HPLC test, so therefore the FDA allows them to include it in the protein count. It's a loophole that supplement companies use to thier advantage. Protein bars use this trick a lot. Gelatin is a protein but has absolutely no BV value. It bumps up the protein content and gives the bar moisture.

Good information in general. I do know of one person who said they got gas after switching to ON 100%, so I believe you. I would still have it tested. I am unfamiliar with the specifics of analytical chemistry , but I am sure that a method exists that can tell the difference between soy protein isolate , whey isolate and gelatin Infact I find it hard to believe that liquid chromatography (HPLC) can't.

Anyway I have some and will get it tested

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Muscle Tech, for those fucking 6 page articles i read half of before it hits me that its a bullshit ad, and cuz i want some Nitro tech, but i also want to be able to put gas in car and drive to gym. i hate muscletech, i want to rob their factory at gun point and steal all their $80 shit. i hate how dumb kids at my school buy in to the hype and run through the halls screaming " NITRO TECH IS 23 TIMES BETTER THAN WHEY !!!' at the top of their lungs

BINGO!!!

I like EAS, I get 5lb Myopro Whey for $20.78 - and it doesn't taste like shit. Now anything Weider, on the other hand, I would like to see Enronized...

Bluesman

 

[atomicgym]

I am not a big fan of Muscletech. I think it's over advertised.

 

[Gambino]

Gnc

 

[KIAN]

I'll answer your question a little differently by saying that all distributors within the United Kingdom should go under. Whether a product works or not, there is no way they can justify the prices they place on supplements. For someone just starting out in bodybuilding, there are enough obstacles for them to overcome with chosing the right supplements (ones that actually work) without having to worry whether or not you will be able to afford your next supply. I can purchase supplements online from America, pay the exchange rate, pay all the shipping and handling charges, ship them over to the UK, pay the import duties and they will still be cheaper than if I were to go across the street and purchase the exact same product off the shelves in a UK health food shop. It is rediculous. Here are just a few price comparisons:

EAS Betagen 90 servings (900g)
UK Price: 64.99 (122.34 US$)
US Price: 38.49
Price difference: 83.85 US$

EAS Phosphagen Elite 40 servings (1.9kg)
UK Price: 44.99 (84.69 US$)
US Price: 35.95
Price difference: 48.74 US$

Muscletech CellTech 985 grams
UK Price: 30.99 (58.33 US$)
US Price: 20.99
Price difference: 37.34 US$

BioTest Hot Rox
UK Price: 54.99 (only 80 caps) (103.47 US$)
US Price: 27.99 (110 caps)
Price difference: 75.48 US$

Prolab N-Large2 (4 lbs)
UK Price: 25.99 (48.90 US$)
US Price: 15.99
Price difference: 32.91 US$

Prolab Whey Protein Isolate (2 lbs)
UK Price: 39.99 (75.23 US$)
US Price: 27.50
Price difference: 47.73 US$


Oh, and on a personal note, I don't understand why anyone even goes into a GNC Store ... unless they are having a sale on Evening Primrose Oil.

 

[BeasterUSN]

I was thier raw material purchase agent for years. I'm no rookie in this industry

Yoda, do you have any quality protein source recommendations you would like to give?

 

[ErikZ]

I am really concerned with the ON revelations.
Switching to Isopure...
:O