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When The Hell Does Turanabol Kick In????

wwebound4life

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I started BD Turanabol at 60mg. ED Sunday Aug. 7th, it's now wednesday night, and I'm not feeling anything yet. No great pumps, no increased libido. Am I expecting to feel this to soon?? Cause some of the Bro's on Elite that have used T-Ball have said that they felt it working pretty quick. I plan on running it for 5-6 weeks and maybe throwing in 50mg. BD Provorin at week 3. I'm just hoping my stuff is real, anyone heard of any BD fake tabs floating around? I got them from a reputable supplier, so I would assume there real.
Is 60mg. ED a high enough dose?
I'm 5/11 220lbs. around 20-25%BF, 29yrs. old.

Iv'e been taking 30mg. with breakfast, another 30mg. around 7 hrs. later, is this a good dosing schedule?
Sorry for my ranting and raving, maybe I just expected to feel this stuff right away. This is my first taste of anabolics, so I really didn't know what to "feel"
Thanks for your imput Bro's.........

[email protected]

TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
 
Tbol should be taken in 3 equal doses throughout the day so you are taking it correctly.
As far as fakes i haven't seen any reported yet.
I've also read some logs of people that it took as long as 8-10 days to kick in but they were still very very happy with it.
60mg ED is on the high end for a first cycle, most start with 40mg and maybe move up to 50mg but i dont' think it will kill you lol

you should start seeing it this week i believe
 
I felt it in like 3 days on 40 qday, don't sweat it-- my guess is that you are probably starting to feel it by the time you read this. I loved that stuff, so much less harsh than dbol e.g. Keep us posted.
 
Hows your diet? Always easier to blame the gear but if your diet isn't up to scratch the gains will not be what you expect.
 
Hey guys it's Ross. (not sure why I was banned?)

Oral-Turinabol is a SLOW and STEADY drug. You will probably gain weight before you gain immediate strength. It is a BUILDUP. It is not DBOL.

This is your second thread now abou this. Is this your 1st cycle? What are you EXPECTING?

Everything is ok...enjoy.
 
Baywatch69 said:
Hows your diet? Always easier to blame the gear but if your diet isn't up to scratch the gains will not be what you expect.

I'm eating around 2700-2800 cal. a day at 5'11 220lbs. 25%BF, trying to cut up a bit.
eating 6 meals a day,
first 5 meals around 65g. protein, 40g. clean carbs., and 8g. fat.
6th and last meal of the day, 65g. protein, 0 carbs. and around 8g. fat.
training on a 4 day split. drinking a ton of water, and using milk thistle, cranberry and of course vitamins.
 
Ross E said:
Hey guys it's Ross. (not sure why I was banned?)

Oral-Turinabol is a SLOW and STEADY drug. You will probably gain weight before you gain immediate strength. It is a BUILDUP. It is not DBOL.

This is your second thread now abou this. Is this your 1st cycle? What are you EXPECTING?

Everything is ok...enjoy.
yeah brother, this is my first cycle. if all goes well, you know I'm planning more!
:) :evil:
 
wwebound4life said:
yeah brother, this is my first cycle. if all goes well, you know I'm planning more!
:) :evil:

You know who to see....

Just call me DOC....:):)
 
wwebound4life said:
I'm eating around 2700-2800 cal. a day at 5'11 220lbs. 25%BF, trying to cut up a bit.
eating 6 meals a day,
first 5 meals around 65g. protein, 40g. clean carbs., and 8g. fat.
6th and last meal of the day, 65g. protein, 0 carbs. and around 8g. fat.
training on a 4 day split. drinking a ton of water, and using milk thistle, cranberry and of course vitamins.
You do not need gear!!!! You need cardio and diet at 25% BF. C'mon bro!!
:Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
You do not need gear!!!! You need cardio and diet at 25% BF. C'mon bro!!
:Chef: :tuc:

Doin' it all Bro!!
correct me if I'm wrong, but the gear will still work even if your not 8%BF right?
:)
 
wwebound4life said:
Doin' it all Bro!!
correct me if I'm wrong, but the gear will still work even if your not 8%BF right?
:)
You're right, but the benefits at a lower BF% are so much more that most people wouldn't waste their money and safety. :Chef: :tuc:
 
I usually feel it around day 4...strength and pumps a few days later. Probably not the best plan to run a cycle at that BF%...but TBol might be your best bet since it doesn't aromatize at all...although you may not drop much BF before it stops working (week 3 or 4 in my experience). I would take a hard look at your diet and cardio bro. Good Luck.
 
i agree with mendo. get down to at least 15 or 12% then you'll get the best results. diet and cardio is your best bet. hop on some clen, tbol gains hit me at 4 days and serious by 7 days. your not using ip are you
 
bruce410 said:
i agree with mendo. get down to at least 15 or 12% then you'll get the best results. diet and cardio is your best bet. hop on some clen, tbol gains hit me at 4 days and serious by 7 days. your not using ip are you

No, i'm using British Dragon.
 
I disagree with the whole "lose more bodyfat before you juice" argument.

If someone has been training naturally to get bigger they WILL get fat in the process, it's called BULKING. And it is WAY harder to gain naturally and stay lean.

There are far too many bros on here willing to knock the fatter lads down because they have lower bodyfat, even when there are so many guys on here that arent that big at all but are juiced out of their heads but think it's okay because they have abs!!

I see so many posts where people ask which fat burner is best and about 10 people jump in and say DIET DIET DIET. We know that, and DIET DIET DIET is the damn answer that a lot of the people on here should get when they post up their big ass cycles with almost no training experience.

This is not directed at anyone in particular but I think double standards may be starting to emerge. Sorry if I have come over as an ass but I just don't think it's fair that we knock bro's down for trying to juice at a high bf%. I will say, however, if you're going to juice at that bf then make sure you dial your diet in and do it properly - lose excess bf and replace it with LBM.

WWEbound, it's been like 4 days since you started. Relax - it will come soon.

UglyASS
 
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Yes this is a 2 way street. I myself have been on the receiving end for trying juice at 27 years old, 5'11 and 165 lbs. 8% natural. Then again some moron at 5'11 and 180 lbs at 15% will chirp me about it...when in the meantime I have the same muscle mass as he has lol!

We'd need to see some pics. 25% is a lot of bodyfat - not sure he measured correctly though. I've seen 18 and it doesnt look bad on a big guy. And seen 15 on a small guy and he looks fat lol!

His diet looks ok though. Just make sure he's over 21, and uses AAS responsibly without getting dependant on it. That is #1 concern.
 
uglyass said:
I disagree with the whole "lose more bodyfat before you juice" argument.

If someone has been training naturally to get bigger they WILL get fat in the process, it's called BULKING. And it is WAY harder to gain naturally and stay lean.

While I agree with you, I'd agree more if he was 15-18%. 25% is a little high IMO, at that body fat %, cholesterol and BP can have a much greater impact than someone at 12%.

Back to the original question, OT didn't kick in for me till around 8 days.
 
stuck said:
While I agree with you, I'd agree more if he was 15-18%. 25% is a little high IMO, at that body fat %, cholesterol and BP can have a much greater impact than someone at 12%.

Yes, fair point but it is more the principle of continual fat bashing that I was trying to get across when there are so many others who aren't that big at all but are juicing anyway. I just don't think it's fair.

For the record I am approx 9/10%bf at the moment lol. K to ya.

UglyASS :p
 
I am actually still having trouble believing I just read a post where someone is wondering why their drug hasnt "kicked in" in a few days...I've been doing this for years, and have gained 60-80lbs, but have never felt it magically kick in at the beginning....maybe I'm doing something wrong
And why you are using your first cycle for a diet I just dont get. On a first cycle you make mass gains that you will never see again in your life, but by using that first cycle during a diet, you have just lost out on those gains
 
uglyass said:
I disagree with the whole "lose more bodyfat before you juice" argument.

If someone has been training naturally to get bigger they WILL get fat in the process, it's called BULKING. And it is WAY harder to gain naturally and stay lean.

There are far too many bros on here willing to knock the fatter lads down because they have lower bodyfat, even when there are so many guys on here that arent that big at all but are juiced out of their heads but think it's oaky because they have abs!!

I see so many posts where people ask which fat burner is best and about 10 people jump in and say DIET DIET DIET. We know that, and DIET DIET DIET is the damn answer that a lot of the people on here should get when they post up their big ass cycles with almost no training experience.

This is not directed at anyone in particular but I think doubke standards may be starting to emerge. Sorry if I have come over as an ass but I just don't think it's fair that we knock bro's down for trying to juice at a high bf%. I will say, however, if you're going to juice at that bf then make sure you dial your diet in and do it properly - lose excess bf and replace it with LBM.

WWEbound, it's been like 4 days since you started. Relax - it will come happen soon.

UglyASS


Well put.
 
needsize said:
I am actually still having trouble believing I just read a post where someone is wondering why their drug hasnt "kicked in" in a few days...I've been doing this for years, and have gained 60-80lbs, but have never felt it magically kick in at the beginning....maybe I'm doing something wrong
And why you are using your first cycle for a diet I just dont get. On a first cycle you make mass gains that you will never see again in your life, but by using that first cycle during a diet, you have just lost out on those gains

Hey Bro, the only reason I was wondering why I didn't feel it yet after only a few days is
one, some other bro's here that have used T-ball said THEY felt it pretty quick,
and two, yeah this is my first taste of anabolics, so I don't know what I'm suposed to "feel" when this stuff starts working.
as far as training goes, I've been hitting the weights since I was 15, I'm now 29.
Yeah I know my BF is to high,"and yes I was a fat kid" but that is my own fault from a half ass shitty diet some of the time, like to much beer and fast food shit!! I'M RIGHT ON TRACK NOW THOUGH! Now that I think about it, my BF isn't probably as high as I thought it was, It is still high though.
I have one of those looks like a powerlifter or a bouncer, "looks big as hell with a t-shirt or a tank top on, but not that great with out one!
I'm 5'11, 220lbs. My arms measure 17 flexed which I guess isn't that bad.
My bests lifts are 315 bench, 350 squat, 585 partial deads in the rack, 145lb. barbell curl, 255 overhead shoulder press in the smith, all natural till now!
I'll try to post some before pics this weekend so you guys can estimate my BF for me, and I do appreciate all your guys advice and concerns. Thanks Elite Bro's!
 
wwebound4life said:
Hey Bro, the only reason I was wondering why I didn't feel it yet after only a few days is
one, some other bro's here that have used T-ball said THEY felt it pretty quick,
and two, yeah this is my first taste of anabolics, so I don't know what I'm suposed to "feel" when this stuff starts working.
as far as training goes, I've been hitting the weights since I was 15, I'm now 29.
Yeah I know my BF is to high,"and yes I was a fat kid" but that is my own fault from a half ass shitty diet some of the time, like to much beer and fast food shit!! I'M RIGHT ON TRACK NOW THOUGH! Now that I think about it, my BF isn't probably as high as I thought it was, It is still high though.
I have one of those looks like a powerlifter or a bouncer, "looks big as hell with a t-shirt or a tank top on, but not that great with out one!
I'm 5'11, 220lbs. My arms measure 17 flexed which I guess isn't that bad.
My bests lifts are 315 bench, 350 squat, 585 partial deads in the rack, 145lb. barbell curl, 255 overhead shoulder press in the smith, all natural till now!
I'll try to post some before pics this weekend so you guys can estimate my BF for me, and I do appreciate all your guys advice and concerns. Thanks Elite Bro's!

you arent going to feel that kick that you are looking for because of the fact that you are dieting. I am currently running tren, but as part of a contest diet. Any time I ran it in the past, it was part of a bulker and my strength went absolutely nuts, this time, I cant feel it at all, as I am not eating enough calories for my strength to do that.
 
needsize said:
you arent going to feel that kick that you are looking for because of the fact that you are dieting. I am currently running tren, but as part of a contest diet. Any time I ran it in the past, it was part of a bulker and my strength went absolutely nuts, this time, I cant feel it at all, as I am not eating enough calories for my strength to do that.

Thanks for the info Bro! :)
 
needsize said:
you arent going to feel that kick that you are looking for because of the fact that you are dieting. I am currently running tren, but as part of a contest diet. Any time I ran it in the past, it was part of a bulker and my strength went absolutely nuts, this time, I cant feel it at all, as I am not eating enough calories for my strength to do that.


Bro, when's your show? How much you down? You getting psyched?
 
kbrkbr said:
Bro, when's your show? How much you down? You getting psyched?

first show is oct 22, next is nov 5th
started at 260lbs, weighed in at 223lsb this morning(I was 232lbs in the avatar pic and last pics I posted)
I'm getting psyched, but at the same time I want it over with...this trainer knows her stuff when it comes to turning people into monsters, so I cant wait for offseason training
 
needsize said:
first show is oct 22, next is nov 5th
started at 260lbs, weighed in at 223lsb this morning(I was 232lbs in the avatar pic and last pics I posted)
I'm getting psyched, but at the same time I want it over with...this trainer knows her stuff when it comes to turning people into monsters, so I cant wait for offseason training
hey big man, I clicked your trainer link, sounds cool! do you actually train with her personally? Do you know if she does any online training?

[email protected]
 
needsize said:
first show is oct 22, next is nov 5th
started at 260lbs, weighed in at 223lsb this morning(I was 232lbs in the avatar pic and last pics I posted)
I'm getting psyched, but at the same time I want it over with...this trainer knows her stuff when it comes to turning people into monsters, so I cant wait for offseason training


Amazing...
 
wwebound4life said:
hey big man, I clicked your trainer link, sounds cool! do you actually train with her personally? Do you know if she does any online training?

[email protected]

Currently I get to see her twice a month, and she checks my progress, and makes any changes to my diet and/or training that I need. And I can train with her those times I see her, I havent yet, it might be humiliating to be shown up by someone who won the canadian, european, and world championships, as well as competed in the olympia several times.....

She does do online training, if you are interested, drop her an email She is the most effective trainer I have ever seen, and not only has she turned everyone I have see her train into a monster, but she actually trains other pros too
 
YOU KNOW WHO TO SEE...Call me DOC

I OUTLINE DIET/EXERCISE/CYCLE PLANS!

I DO NOT SELL STEROIDS!!"

I AM A FITNESS MODEL/Training Consultant!

I DO NOT SELL STEROIDS!
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
YOU KNOW WHO'S BEEN BANNED 3X AND CAN'T TAKE A HINT? MAYBE I SHOULDN'T PEDDLE MY SERVICES HERE AND INSTEAD JUST GIVE SOLID ADVICE ON AN OPEN FORUM

Great idea bor!!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
lol...
THIS FORUM COSTS ALOT OF MONEY TO BE A "PLATINUM MEMBER"
Offering valuable information at an affordable price is "peddling services"?

Books, videos, instructional tapes.....money, money, moeny.

Information is never free.

If you took the time to see what I do, you would be impressed.
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
YOU KNOW WHO TO SEE...Call me DOC

I OUTLINE DIET/EXERCISE/CYCLE PLANS!

I DO NOT SELL STEROIDS!!"

I AM A FITNESS MODEL/Training Consultant!

I DO NOT SELL STEROIDS!


ok.

stfu now.
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
lol...
THIS FORUM COSTS ALOT OF MONEY TO BE A "PLATINUM MEMBER"
Offering valuable information at an affordable price is "peddling services"?

Books, videos, instructional tapes.....money, money, moeny.

Information is never free.

If you took the time to see what I do, you would be impressed.
No it doesn't cost a lot you worthless piece of tampon string. Go fuck yourself with a broken Zima bottle and chew on some Levi Garret while your at it. :Chef: :tuc:
 
LOL...

You guys need to grow up. I am only tring to share my experiences. :)
 
There are only 2 people whoever gave me Red Karma...ChefBone and Indy69Camaro.

My post had over 4,000 views, which generated hundreds of emails and PMS...alot of people enjoyed my advice.

Grow up guys.
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
There are only 2 people whoever gave me Red Karma...ChefBone and Indy69Camaro.

My post had over 4,000 views, which generated hundreds of emails and PMS...alot of people enjoyed my advice.

Grow up guys.
A lot of people enjoy my advice and I don't have to advertise. Stop with the BS bor. You won't win. I'm outta here. If you want to sell shit, start your own web-site called.....www.rosslovestrannies.com.:Chef: :tuc:
 
This account is toast.

I will be back...grazing the shadows annonymously, offering only the safest and most effective bodybuilding advice. Although, by virtue of its utter quality--you will know it is me...

In the meantime....CHEFBONE...lets see some pics! I doubt your muscles are is big as your mouth is....
 
This account is toast.

I will be back...grazing the shadows annonymously, offering only the safest and most effective bodybuilding advice. Although, by virtue of its utter quality--you will know it is me...

In the meantime....CHEFBONE...lets see some pics! I doubt your muscles are is big as your mouth is....
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
This account is toast.

I will be back...grazing the shadows annonymously, offering only the safest and most effective bodybuilding advice. Although, by virtue of its utter quality--you will know it is me...

In the meantime....CHEFBONE...lets see some pics! I doubt your muscles are is big as your mouth is....

well mine as well as many members have muscles that absolutely dwarf anything you could show us, and we share our info for free, so why would someone want to pay you?
 
LOL....

I always do this. I have a large group of supporters. The number of people who enjoy my advices SERIOUSLY outnumber the very small few who are offended by my agressiveness.

i will never stop. i will always be here. i always have been....
 
He's sending me love letters now via PM and all I did was debunk his irrelevant studies and bomb him once for an alter.
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
LOL....

I always do this. I have a large group of supporters. The number of people who enjoy my advices SERIOUSLY outnumber the very small few who are offended by my agressiveness.

i will never stop. i will always be here. i always have been....

you never did answer my question oh great wizard of oz, with guys like me, quadsweep, galaxy, radar, and the tons of other guys on here that make you look like a little kid, giving out free advice, why would anyone pay for yours?
 
needsize said:
you never did answer my question oh great wizard of oz, with guys like me, quadsweep, galaxy, radar, and the tons of other guys on here that make you look like a little kid, giving out free advice, why would anyone pay for yours?

is it me, or would you pay for needsizes advice (which obviously works!) or some skinny ass kid peddling tbol?
 
needsize said:
you never did answer my question oh great wizard of oz, with guys like me, quadsweep, galaxy, radar, and the tons of other guys on here that make you look like a little kid, giving out free advice, why would anyone pay for yours?

You guys DONT LOOK GOOD--even in your avatar you look bloated. YEA YOUR BIG---and not even much bigger than me. But you don't have my symmetry, vascularity, muscularity, skin texture, or low BF levels.

RADAR looks great! And a good guy too!

The others, never seen em...I am not claiming to be the biggest, or even the best looking. I am only saying I am big and look good. 205lbs 6%BF, 5''10...I am happpy
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
You guys DONT LOOK GOOD--even in your avatar you look bloated. YEA YOUR BIG---and not even much bigger than me. But you don't have my symmetry, vascularity, muscularity, skin texture, or low BF levels.

RADAR looks great! And a good guy too!

The others, never seen em...I am not claiming to be the biggest, or even the best looking. I am only saying I am big and look good. 205lbs 6%BF, 5''10...I am happpy


Yea now you're really proving your an idiot, Ross go fuck yourself on another board, we are TIRED of you here !!! and take your fucking ego with you
 
I love how all this crap has totally destroyed my thread, way to go Ross!
 
wwebound4life said:
I love how all this crap has totally destroyed my thread, way to go Ross!
hell ruined my night seeing this moron is back again, and then to be stupid enough to say needsize is really no bigger than he is....


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA that just proves NO ONE should pay him a dime for anything, he is dillusional.....

Needsize bro, you'll be able to crack his skull like a walnut in your biceps when you are down to competition weight, ripped to shreds..if he denies that, I'll gladly buy Radar a new Mercedes just to make sure this idiot stays off the board......Ok, how about a years worth of protein bars :)
 
indy69camaro said:
hell ruined my night seeing this moron is back again, and then to be stupid enough to say needsize is really no bigger than he is....


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA that just proves NO ONE should pay him a dime for anything, he is dillusional.....

Needsize bro, you'll be able to crack his skull like a walnut in your biceps when you are down to competition weight, ripped to shreds..if he denies that, I'll gladly buy Radar a new Mercedes just to make sure this idiot stays off the board......Ok, how about a years worth of protein bars :)

How about a lifetime supply of cycles!! :) :) :) :) :)
 
Lol..he is big, but what will his weight be at my BF%? I am just trying to have a discussion, and accidently FLAMED BACK--as I am being attacked here..yet, by ONLY 3 INDIVIDUALS--vets, who are obviosuly threatened by my rapid gain in popularity. It sucks you guys are so immature.

But seriously...what will your weight be at 5, 6%BF? How tall are you? How old? I have never used TEST or any aromatizable steroid....OR HIGHLY androgenic....

I am just disturbed you are actually trying to claim I don;t look goood--I mean fuck my advices...look at me..
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
Lol..he is big, but what will his weight be at my BF%? I am just trying to have a discussion, and accidently FLAMED BACK--as I am being attacked here..yet, by ONLY 3 INDIVIDUALS--vets, who are obviosuly threatened by my rapid gain in popularity. It sucks you guys are so immature.

But seriously...what will your weight be at 5, 6%BF? How tall are you? How old? I have never used TEST or any aromatizable steroid....OR HIGHLY androgenic....

I am just disturbed you are actually trying to claim I don;t look goood--I mean fuck my advices...look at me..
Shut up FONZ :Chef: :tuc:
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
Lol..he is big, but what will his weight be at my BF%? I am just trying to have a discussion, and accidently FLAMED BACK--as I am being attacked here..yet, by ONLY 3 INDIVIDUALS--vets, who are obviosuly threatened by my rapid gain in popularity. It sucks you guys are so immature.

But seriously...what will your weight be at 5, 6%BF? How tall are you? How old? I have never used TEST or any aromatizable steroid....OR HIGHLY androgenic....

I am just disturbed you are actually trying to claim I don;t look goood--I mean fuck my advices...look at me..

Did I say you dont look good, i said your advice wasnt worth paying for
As for what would my weight be at 6%, still much more than you, and I am only 5'8", and you are far from 6% in your avatar, so I call bullshit on that one!
And my symmetry is far better than yours, lets see a pic of your legs? Here is a pic of me when I carried 20lbs less muscle than I do now, my symmetry kills yours, and I am way, way leaner than you are in your avatar
DSCF0007.jpg
 
needsize said:
Did I say you dont look good, i said your advice wasnt worth paying for
As for what would my weight be at 6%, still much more than you, and I am only 5'8", and you are far from 6% in your avatar, so I call bullshit on that one!
And my symmetry is far better than yours, lets see a pic of your legs? Here is a pic of me when I carried 20lbs less muscle than I do now, my symmetry kills yours, and I am way, way leaner than you are in your avatar
DSCF0007.jpg


holy crap. thats what you look like with a tan!


looking soild bro.
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
Lol..he is big, but what will his weight be at my BF%? I am just trying to have a discussion, and accidently FLAMED BACK--as I am being attacked here..yet, by ONLY 3 INDIVIDUALS--vets, who are obviosuly threatened by my rapid gain in popularity. It sucks you guys are so immature.

But seriously...what will your weight be at 5, 6%BF? How tall are you? How old? I have never used TEST or any aromatizable steroid....OR HIGHLY androgenic....

I am just disturbed you are actually trying to claim I don;t look goood--I mean fuck my advices...look at me..

RIGHT THERE, that's the arrogance that got your ass where it is now......
 
needsize said:
Did I say you dont look good, i said your advice wasnt worth paying for
As for what would my weight be at 6%, still much more than you, and I am only 5'8", and you are far from 6% in your avatar, so I call bullshit on that one!
And my symmetry is far better than yours, lets see a pic of your legs? Here is a pic of me when I carried 20lbs less muscle than I do now, my symmetry kills yours, and I am way, way leaner than you are in your avatar
DSCF0007.jpg
Yo, needsize, I like the spit bottle in the background. Skoal or Kodiak?????
:Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
Yo, needsize, I like the spit bottle in the background. Skoal or Kodiak?????
:Chef: :tuc:

actually that was red wine

and believe it or not, I do have a tan, but my video camera washes me out in a big way
 
kbrkbr said:
This guy's arrogance reminds me of Nelson Montana.

nelson had a much more impressive physique than this tool though
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
You guys DONT LOOK GOOD--even in your avatar you look bloated. YEA YOUR BIG---and not even much bigger than me. But you don't have my symmetry, vascularity, muscularity, skin texture, or low BF levels.

RADAR looks great! And a good guy too!

The others, never seen em...I am not claiming to be the biggest, or even the best looking. I am only saying I am big and look good. 205lbs 6%BF, 5''10...I am happpy

That's funny as hell. It's called offseason in the avatar. Needsize's contest pic proves this statement wrong. Even day of show he is bigger than you! And that's at a much lower BF than you. This thread is turning into a comedy audition.
 
needsize said:
Did I say you dont look good, i said your advice wasnt worth paying for
As for what would my weight be at 6%, still much more than you, and I am only 5'8", and you are far from 6% in your avatar, so I call bullshit on that one!
And my symmetry is far better than yours, lets see a pic of your legs? Here is a pic of me when I carried 20lbs less muscle than I do now, my symmetry kills yours, and I am way, way leaner than you are in your avatar
DSCF0007.jpg

all im gonna say is.....Are you kidding me Ross?
 
Needsize, that is a solid pic bro--you look absolutely fantastic.

This does not however render my advices nonsense, and my physique unimpressive.

The only real issue here is that I was selling my services, which apparently is percieved bya few as unethical.

I am sorry. Lets move on
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
Needsize, that is a solid pic bro--you look absolutely fantastic.

This does not however render my advices nonsense, and my physique unimpressive.

The only real issue here is that I was selling my services, which apparently is percieved bya few as unethical.

I am sorry. Lets move on

not unethical, just pointless when there are countless people on here withmore experience giving out advice for free
 
needsize said:
not unethical, just pointless when there are countless people on here withmore experience giving out advice for free

POINT TAKEN...

By the way, sorry for the insult, I was simply overwhelmed by the number of character assaulting posts. You look great bro.
 
Ross Loves PUMP said:
Lol..he is big, but what will his weight be at my BF%? I am just trying to have a discussion, and accidently FLAMED BACK--as I am being attacked here..yet, by ONLY 3 INDIVIDUALS--vets, who are obviosuly threatened by my rapid gain in popularity. It sucks you guys are so immature.

But seriously...what will your weight be at 5, 6%BF? How tall are you? How old? I have never used TEST or any aromatizable steroid....OR HIGHLY androgenic....

I am just disturbed you are actually trying to claim I don;t look goood--I mean fuck my advices...look at me..

You've gotta be fucking kidding me. You will never look as good as needsize. Needsize looks better than you in a full bulk, then you do during "modeling season." You're a beach boy, nothing more.

HOW the fuck do you "accidentially" flame someone? Yea, right buddy. And this post is an accident, I'm not actually typing it, my cat is jumping on my keyboard and somehow typing this exact response.
 
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