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When The Hell Does Turanabol Kick In????

chefbone said:
You do not need gear!!!! You need cardio and diet at 25% BF. C'mon bro!!
:Chef: :tuc:

Doin' it all Bro!!
correct me if I'm wrong, but the gear will still work even if your not 8%BF right?
:)
 
wwebound4life said:
Doin' it all Bro!!
correct me if I'm wrong, but the gear will still work even if your not 8%BF right?
:)
You're right, but the benefits at a lower BF% are so much more that most people wouldn't waste their money and safety. :Chef: :tuc:
 
I usually feel it around day 4...strength and pumps a few days later. Probably not the best plan to run a cycle at that BF%...but TBol might be your best bet since it doesn't aromatize at all...although you may not drop much BF before it stops working (week 3 or 4 in my experience). I would take a hard look at your diet and cardio bro. Good Luck.
 
i agree with mendo. get down to at least 15 or 12% then you'll get the best results. diet and cardio is your best bet. hop on some clen, tbol gains hit me at 4 days and serious by 7 days. your not using ip are you
 
bruce410 said:
i agree with mendo. get down to at least 15 or 12% then you'll get the best results. diet and cardio is your best bet. hop on some clen, tbol gains hit me at 4 days and serious by 7 days. your not using ip are you

No, i'm using British Dragon.
 
I disagree with the whole "lose more bodyfat before you juice" argument.

If someone has been training naturally to get bigger they WILL get fat in the process, it's called BULKING. And it is WAY harder to gain naturally and stay lean.

There are far too many bros on here willing to knock the fatter lads down because they have lower bodyfat, even when there are so many guys on here that arent that big at all but are juiced out of their heads but think it's okay because they have abs!!

I see so many posts where people ask which fat burner is best and about 10 people jump in and say DIET DIET DIET. We know that, and DIET DIET DIET is the damn answer that a lot of the people on here should get when they post up their big ass cycles with almost no training experience.

This is not directed at anyone in particular but I think double standards may be starting to emerge. Sorry if I have come over as an ass but I just don't think it's fair that we knock bro's down for trying to juice at a high bf%. I will say, however, if you're going to juice at that bf then make sure you dial your diet in and do it properly - lose excess bf and replace it with LBM.

WWEbound, it's been like 4 days since you started. Relax - it will come soon.

UglyASS
 
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Yes this is a 2 way street. I myself have been on the receiving end for trying juice at 27 years old, 5'11 and 165 lbs. 8% natural. Then again some moron at 5'11 and 180 lbs at 15% will chirp me about it...when in the meantime I have the same muscle mass as he has lol!

We'd need to see some pics. 25% is a lot of bodyfat - not sure he measured correctly though. I've seen 18 and it doesnt look bad on a big guy. And seen 15 on a small guy and he looks fat lol!

His diet looks ok though. Just make sure he's over 21, and uses AAS responsibly without getting dependant on it. That is #1 concern.
 
uglyass said:
I disagree with the whole "lose more bodyfat before you juice" argument.

If someone has been training naturally to get bigger they WILL get fat in the process, it's called BULKING. And it is WAY harder to gain naturally and stay lean.

While I agree with you, I'd agree more if he was 15-18%. 25% is a little high IMO, at that body fat %, cholesterol and BP can have a much greater impact than someone at 12%.

Back to the original question, OT didn't kick in for me till around 8 days.
 
stuck said:
While I agree with you, I'd agree more if he was 15-18%. 25% is a little high IMO, at that body fat %, cholesterol and BP can have a much greater impact than someone at 12%.

Yes, fair point but it is more the principle of continual fat bashing that I was trying to get across when there are so many others who aren't that big at all but are juicing anyway. I just don't think it's fair.

For the record I am approx 9/10%bf at the moment lol. K to ya.

UglyASS :p
 
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