When is someone ready for their first cycle?

[LiftHeavy123]

I'm 24, 6'1, 205lbs and 14-15%bf. My lifts go as follows

(I'm low balling to be on the safe side)

Squat 215x5
Bench 215x5
Row 170x3
Deadlifts 260x5
Military Press 105x5

My diet is in check. My BF has not changed over the last 10 pounds gained. I only gained 3%bf over the last 20 pounds gained. This took me a year though. But, that will most likely change over the next 10-20 pounds I gain. I'm in my 5th week of the Starrs 5x5 intermediate.

Overall, I just don't want to be a typical novice rushing into their first cycle. If I was to do a cycle I would of course run only test.

 

[adpeterson33]

I'm 24, 6'1, 205lbs and 14-15%bf. My lifts go as follows

(I'm low balling to be on the safe side)

Squat 215x5
Bench 215x5
Row 170x3
Deadlifts 260x5
Military Press 105x5

My diet is in check. My BF has not changed over the last 10 pounds gained. I only gained 3%bf over the last 20 pounds gained. This took me a year though. But, that will most likely change over the next 10-20 pounds I gain. I'm in my 5th week of the Starrs 5x5 intermediate.

Overall, I just don't want to be a typical novice rushing into their first cycle. If I was to do a cycle I would of course run only test.

You need to wait... do some creatine/glutamine/ cardio you have a lot of room for improvement. Eat more!! I didnt start aas till 7 years of hard training and I peaked.

 

[LiftHeavy123]

Yeah I figured that. I just finished a cycle of Creatine. I'm taking 10g of glutamine during my workouts. I haven't been doing much cardio with the exception of playing the drums, which if you watched me is high intensity for about an hour straight. I sometimes get mixed messages here. Sometimes people wait until they peak then start. Some people start early, get great result, and then get complemented.

 

[adpeterson33]

Yeah I figured that. I just finished a cycle of Creatine. I'm taking 10g of glutamine during my workouts. I haven't been doing much cardio with the exception of playing the drums, which if you watched me is high intensity for about an hour straight. I sometimes get mixed messages here. Sometimes people wait until they peak then start. Some people start early, get great result, and then get complemented.

Peak then you'll know you did everything you could've till you need aas

 

[SgtSlaughter]

this thread may be of interest to you:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468460

 

[Mrpumped]

Yeah I figured that. I just finished a cycle of Creatine. I'm taking 10g of glutamine during my workouts. I haven't been doing much cardio with the exception of playing the drums, which if you watched me is high intensity for about an hour straight. I sometimes get mixed messages here. Sometimes people wait until they peak then start. Some people start early, get great result, and then get complemented.

If there is anything you should wait for, it should be to get your diet and supplementation in check. Whey protein, Multi vitamin, Fishoil, Creatine, Glutamine and others as well that you'll read here on the boards to help you get the best of your workouts. These are supps that should be taken all the time and not cycled. Once you get that in check you'll see yourself begin to put on size naturally and your strength will go up too. You'll notice that your recovery time in between workouts will improve. Throughout all this time continue to research here and ask questions and learn as much as you can before you start to use gear. If you bust your ass starting now, you can have these things in check within one year. Then it's gear time.

 

[LiftHeavy123]

If there is anything you should wait for, it should be to get your diet and supplementation in check. Whey protein, Multi vitamin, Fishoil, Creatine, Glutamine and others as well that you'll read here on the boards to help you get the best of your workouts. These are supps that should be taken all the time and not cycled. Once you get that in check you'll see yourself begin to put on size naturally and your strength will go up too. You'll notice that your recovery time in between workouts will improve. Throughout all this time continue to research here and ask questions and learn as much as you can before you start to use gear. If you bust your ass starting now, you can have these things in check within one year. Then it's gear time.

Thank you for your input. I use mostly Beverly International Proteins (or Muscle Milk) and Glutamine Select, Megaman Vitamin, and Champion Nutrition Power Creatine. But I do cycle my creatine. 3 months on 1 off. Recovery time is not a problem. I basically wanted to feel out which "schools" of thought some of you guys come from...A. wait until you peak then start gear B. start before you peak. I wanted to see if people had postive or negative experiences with either. I'm going to continue naturally though until I hit at least 225-230. So I have 20 more pounds to go at least. But since I started I put on 20 lbs and my BF has stayed stable (15%).

 

[rock75]

I'm 24, 6'1, 205lbs and 14-15%bf. My lifts go as follows

(I'm low balling to be on the safe side)

Squat 215x5
Bench 215x5
Row 170x3
Deadlifts 260x5
Military Press 105x5

My diet is in check. My BF has not changed over the last 10 pounds gained. I only gained 3%bf over the last 20 pounds gained. This took me a year though. But, that will most likely change over the next 10-20 pounds I gain. I'm in my 5th week of the Starrs 5x5 intermediate.

Overall, I just don't want to be a typical novice rushing into their first cycle. If I was to do a cycle I would of course run only test.

I waited till I was at:
5'10", 170

Squat 225x10
Bench 225x9
Row 200x10
Military Press 135x10

At that point I peaked and had a tough time getting stronger. Perfect time to start. You should wait 2 months. Trim up and get you diet perfect then start.

 

[no1_brawler]

everey1 says wait until you get close to ur genetic limit b4 u start but fuk dat man, ur 24yrs old. u cud wait a year or 2 b4 u juice, by then youll be 26 or you could start now and be 230lbs+ by the time your 25.

 

[rnch]

fuck creatine!!