When going natural, are you disappointed?

[view]

Ughh. At this point your guys aren't getting me too excited for going natural. i was just on for 20 weeks and was planning on going natural for at least that much time again.

 

[riverrock]

I have been off for well over a year now, am very happy with my gains natty and would recommend any Bro to stay natty as long as possible until he is near his genetic max (6 Years of solid training as an adult) before using juice

 

[Raptorex]

200 at 10% might be attainable for an average height man with a few years hard training.. but not maintainable

thats a bonafide 10%, not an internet '10%' (12-15%) bf

Sorry dude, your just not correct here at all. Just have to eat clean and supplement with lots of protein/glutamine. I think you mean around 235 lbs.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Do you work your ass off going natural and disappointed to see slow results?

im natural anyhow, and im not big, but my strength goes up at a pretty good pace for me

 

[Sub-Zero]

See this is what confuses me. You just don't know who in the gym is actually not natural. I'm 16, and bust my ass off a ton, but I didn't start a month earlier for my cut like I should have, and I'm seeing all these beasts at the beach walking around. I bet money that alot of them are roid users but its depressing you know? So much hard work just to see that.

By the way, stats are (as of just after xmas)

Age: 16
Weight: 175
Bench: 275
Squat: 330
Deadlift: 350

lol, at 16, your fine dude, keep working tho

 

[Dz_7]

lol, at 16, your fine dude, keep working tho

I know, but still

 

[Whiskey]

When going natural, I have pretty good luck as long as my diet is right on and I stay motivated, but that motivation comes from here. About 15-30 minutes on here and i'm more than ready to hit the gym.

Of course i'd rather be on though ;-)

Whiskey

 

[WalkingBeast]

Theres always dissappointment. But when looking at what Ive done naturally, from where I started, there is some satisfaction. I Even on gear I could be disappointed though. Ive learned to be patient and have held out this long without gear (10 years). Having learned that I will be able to break 20 inch arms naturally (aside from supplements) and 50 plus inch chest gives me motivation. I was very close to these stats before injuring myself 5 months ago.

 

[WalkingBeast]

Theres always dissappointment. But when looking at what Ive done naturally, from where I started, there is some satisfaction. I was 105lbs-115lbs when I started and couldnt bench the bar unassisted. Even on gear I could be disappointed though. Ive learned to be patient and have held out this long without gear (10 years). Having learned that I will be able to break 20 inch arms naturally (aside from supplements) and 50 plus inch chest gives me motivation. I was very close to these stats before injuring myself 5 months ago. So at 24 I will try to hold out for a while and see what I can do naturally. Its been alot of work, and 10 years straight of this consuming my life, but it is possible. I dont like the term hardgainer. I see it as an excuse. But if such a thing exists I guess I could be called that. I gain very slowly and lose it very fast. Its not easy. Not many are willing to push themselves hard enough naturally to take it that far. It takes ALOT of patience. I may go on something eventually to give me a boost and help me bring my size up some more, but I havent found it necessary.

 

[WalkingBeast]

Well I guess it's that much more of an accomplishment to be natural then. It's really not incredibly difficult to get up to around 200 and 10% bodyfat over the course of 3 years or so, regardless of genetics, given the right training and diet.

Go ahead and ruin your kidneys and liver, lose your hair, and shrink your balls all for a little more muscle that you could have gained naturally. I would say the vast majority of gear users are NOWHERE near their genetic potential, so don't even try to bring that argument up.

Took me alot longer then 3 years to reach 200lbs! haha My measurements are a good deal larger then my weight would indicate though. Strength has always been my strongest point. At 220-230 Id have 22-23 inch arms if the same pattern continued. Im more concerned with measurements then bodyweight.