When does the bacteria die?

[DrBones]

Hey guys,
I've been making a shake every morning for my bulking phase I'm in right now... I usually throw in 3-4 eggs. I toss them in a cup and throw them in the microwave for about 1 minute.. which leaves them still basically raw.. just a little cooked white stuff floating around... Is this long enought to kill all the samonela and other bacteria?

Also.. how does this shake look for bulking?
2 packages quaker instant oatmeal (regular, no flavor) raw
3-4 eggs
1 banana
1 tablespoon peanut butter
2 scoops post workout drink 4:1 carbs-pro
3 grams creatine
400ml water

All blended up and down the hatch.... I've been watchin my weight go up steadily since drinking this every morning... Any idea how many calories this would be? Maybe a breakdown between pro/fat/carbs

Thanks guys!

 

[Mr.X]

,
I've been making a shake every morning for my bulking phase I'm in right now... I usually throw in 3-4 eggs. I toss them in a cup and throw them in the microwave for about 1 minute.. which leaves them still basically raw.. just a little cooked white stuff floating around... Is this long enought to kill all the samonela and other bacteria?
probalbly not on the salmonela part

Also.. how does this shake look for bulking?
shake looks good, maybe drop the banana
2 packages quaker instant oatmeal (regular, no flavor) raw
300cal
3-4 eggs
210-280cal
1 banana
100cal
1 tablespoon peanut butter
100cal
2 scoops post workout drink 4:1 carbs-pro
that should have nutrition facts
3 grams creatine
400ml water

Mr.X

 

[Mr.X]

http://elitefitness.com/articledata/calorie.html


this site has good calorie info

Mr.X

 

[anthrax]

if the yolk is still liquid the salmonella are still there

but you should quickly know whether there were salmonella or other pathogenic bacteria

 

[DrBones]

Thanks for the help MR.X..
What are the reasons behind dropping the bannana?

if the yolk is still liquid the salmonella are still there

Wouldn't that make sunny side up and easy over eggs a big risk?
I thought the bacteria was mainly on the shell?

 

[danielson]

egg coagulates (solidifies) at roughly 80*c

this is also when any spores of salmonella etc will be destroyed....so as long as the egg is solidified you know itsd all reached the right temp

 

[DrBones]

egg coagulates (solidifies) at roughly 80*c

So does the entire egg nead to be coagulated before the bacteria is dead? There is still plenty of clear egg white and the yoke is still very much in tact in a very "Fluid" form.

What is the risk of getting samonela or other problems doing what I'm doing? If Im gunna get sick... I'll cook those suckers until they are hard... It just tasted so much nastier drinking a "hot" shake

 

[Mr.X]

Thanks for the help MR.X..
What are the reasons behind dropping the bannana?
unneccesary carbs...especially fructose...

Mr.X

 

[danielson]

So does the entire egg nead to be coagulated before the bacteria is dead? There is still plenty of clear egg white and the yoke is still very much in tact in a very "Fluid" form.

What is the risk of getting samonela or other problems doing what I'm doing? If Im gunna get sick... I'll cook those suckers until they are hard... It just tasted so much nastier drinking a "hot" shake

yes....the entire egg




as i understand the risk is increased due to modern farming methods.....they pack a whole load of hens together and they eat each others poop. if one has salmonella, its in its poop and all of the others eat it and get salmonella. wheich can ind its way from the chickens blood into the egg, (i.e. the yolk and white)

relative risk....no idea. never had food poisoning from an egg.......if your gonna reduce the risk try free range eggs or organic free range eggs, as there's less chance (but not risk free) of chickens being cooped up and eating each others shit. and chickens nowadays are being vaccinated against salmonella.....in britain they made it mandatory and each egg from a vaccinated chiken bears a symbol on it saying so. that would reduce the risk......eating lots of runny eggs would increase the risk, just due to probablility

i don;t think its that common but better safe then sorry....if i do eat a runny yolk its only ever from a free range hen thats vaccinated, and even then i let the yolk heat up a little

 

[DrBones]

Great info Mr.X and Danielson...

Mr.X
The bannana in the shake is mainly for texture and taste... Do you think its really that big of a deal while bulking?
Do you have any other ideas for a thickener? Maybe a yogurt or something?
Thanks again!

 

[Mr.X]

The bannana in the shake is mainly for texture and taste... Do you think its really that big of a deal while bulking?
not that big a deal...it's just a personal belief of mine

Do you have any other ideas for a thickener? Maybe a yogurt or something?
yogurt is pretty good...or you can add more PB

Mr.X

 

[DrBones]

OK.... I tried making the shake again last night with yogurt instead of bannana... I just don't think I can do it... The bannana totally makes the taste and texture of the drink... too hard to put down without it...
Oh well..> hopefully it doesnt get me too plump
Thanks again for all the help everyone

 

[Mr.X]

OK.... I tried making the shake again last night with yogurt instead of bannana... I just don't think I can do it... The bannana totally makes the taste and texture of the drink... too hard to put down without it...
Oh well..> hopefully it doesnt get me too plump
Thanks again for all the help everyone

Just stick to the banana, if it really makes such a difference for you ... I guess it wont kill you

Happy New Year!

Mr.X

 

[DrBones]

Thanks!
Happy New Year to you Mr.X and everybody else too!