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When deadlifting what do you use?
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Tomek.. The HULK
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All i have tried atm.. grip isn't an issue atm .. getting bigger and heavier lifts is.. just strted dead lift the week before.
I'll stay double over till around 600 and then I'll go alternate grip.
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Anthrax Invasion
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I typically use a clean grip. I utilize a hook grip if the weights become too heavy for my grip. I don't like a mixed grip. There's risk of a bicep tear in the supinated arm, it feels unnatural to me, and it places torque on the back.
jacked clown
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Mix grip and chalk...to pull any kind of weight you have to use a mixed grip
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Anthrax Invasion
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jacked clown said:
Incorrect, sorry.
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Phaded
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usually when i'm deadlifting 1k lbs or more ill use mixed grip.. but anything less i use regular with straps..
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Anthrax Invasion
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Why is a hook grip without chalk useless?
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Anthrax Invasion
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kethnaab said:
First off, you won't necessarily pull substantially more with a mixed grip. More, maybe. How much varies.
Second, you misunderstood, or I didn't make myself clear enough. What I was saying incorrect to was his comment that, in order to pull an appreciable amount of weight, you needed a mixed grip. That is incorrect. I should have made it more clear.
Super_Stacked_Pimp
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I use one hand forward and one hand reverse grip. If I am going heavy for like 1-3 reps I'll use the belt. 5 reps and up no belt, no chalk and no wraps, just bare hands.
Anthrax Invasion said:
My best double over is 602 x 2
My best over under is 730
In my opinion and from my experience only (of course) that is fairly substantial.
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Chambewy20
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I use over under, from my experience, if your half way strong, grip doesn't come into play until you get around three times your own body weight.
Over-under contributes to the whole windmill effect that you can't get away from when using maximal weights.
Over-under contributes to the whole windmill effect that you can't get away from when using maximal weights.
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Phaded
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b fold the truth said:
pwned.
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BadboyAl
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Unless you have abnormally strong hands, you need a mixed grip with chalk.
kethnaab
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Anthrax Invasion said:
okay, well, I suppose it is all relative. after all, I bet Ed Coan could use a double-overhand grip and still pull a bigass amount, but there is going to be a pretty big difference.
of course, if you don't have a big difference between your double-overhand and mixed grip, then kickass!
I sure as hell can't pull diddley with a double-overhand.
SgtSlaughter
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Smurfy said:
ok. Wow, is all i'm going to say about you and your Avatar... Lumberg is proud I'm sure.
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Anyway... I was trained younger to use the "mixed" (I think... aka over/under grip, I belive). But I've always tried to switch it up as to make sure I was not making one bi. be strained more than the other.
I use straps as last resort only when my forearms are fried and I can't even hold a 20 lb dumbell for 5 seconds.
Can I get a Hook grip "definition?" Or actually a graphical/visual aid?? lol. That'd be the easiest and most specific way to explain I'm sure.
And Regular Grip = palms in (toward the body) I assume.
I'll spread some K around for those that have time to help a bro that's never read that much into the Deadlift.
thanks.
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Jim Ouini
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Hmm I haven't tried mixed grip in awhile, ever since I switched from semi-sumo style. Now I dead conventional and double over.
Now I wonder what my mixed conventional dead would be...
Basically you tuck your thumb under the bar and wrap your fingers (usually the forefinger and middle finger) around it. In essence your thumb becomes a strap. A dead, lifeless appendage as it were. I mess around with it occasionally but not seriously until I get some athletic tape.
Now I wonder what my mixed conventional dead would be...
SgtSlaughter said:
Basically you tuck your thumb under the bar and wrap your fingers (usually the forefinger and middle finger) around it. In essence your thumb becomes a strap. A dead, lifeless appendage as it were. I mess around with it occasionally but not seriously until I get some athletic tape.
blut wump
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Seriously, unless you have abnormally strong hands, making them stronger should be a priority. As such, I use a double-overhand grip as much as possible and, typically, that now means always except on rack pulls and all-out max attempts. Work double-over until it's failing then switch to mixed and finally straps or hook grip.BadboyAl said:
Often in the gym I see people using straps as a matter of course on any pulling exercise. I see warmup rows being done with straps as well as pulley pulldowns with two or three plates. If you don't work your grip how can you hope for it to improve?
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blut wump said:
This is true for those wanting grip improvement. Others are simply in the game to get bigger or stronger, without regard for the more distal points of their body. I don't fully understand this, but if they don't want to improve all the aspects of their function...
Steve The Bluesman
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Another vote for mixed grip with chalk. There is chalk dust all over me after a workout...good thing I do most of my lifting in my garage, aka Bluesman's Powerhouse Gym.
Another note, when working out at a college gym I use on the weekends with a buddy, a 4 foot tall dwarf with missing teeth came up to us while doing deads, and he spoke of tearing a bicep while doing deads. He also spoke of being in powerlifitng competitions and asking the gym manager for 150lbs dumbells.
Naturally, I though he was full of shit.
Never knew anyone to have torn a bicep doing deads with a mixed grip, but anything is possible.
Bluesman
Another note, when working out at a college gym I use on the weekends with a buddy, a 4 foot tall dwarf with missing teeth came up to us while doing deads, and he spoke of tearing a bicep while doing deads. He also spoke of being in powerlifitng competitions and asking the gym manager for 150lbs dumbells.
Naturally, I though he was full of shit.
Never knew anyone to have torn a bicep doing deads with a mixed grip, but anything is possible.
Bluesman
Steve The Bluesman said:
It can and has happened. It's obviously pretty rare but there is increased risk of this particular injury. Obviously mixed grip can get you rotating or create imbalances. Making sure you have a good straight bar is really important since it can greatly increases the risk. All that said, outside the straight bar thing it's a pretty minimal risk increase and if you want a legit dead and are limited by grip strength this is the way to go about it. The hook can work really well too, I remember one guy saying he could pull just as much with hook as with mixed but bar speed off the floor on a max pull was faster for him with mixed and that translated to the bigger pull. All kind of depends on what your goal is and what's the best fit.
BTW - BFOLD, 602x2 is some impressive double overhand gripping.
Madcow2 said:
Thanks man. I have a vid of it somewhere. I'll try to find it next week and post it. Most all of my grip is between my thumb and pointer finger...and my thumb will wrap over my pointer finger and basically will not give (like a reverse hook grip I guess). I think that it is from using a bo staff for so many years when I was younger in Martial Arts.
I do think that I could have done 3-5 with that 602 double over. Strange thing is...add 20-30 more pounds and I can't pull a single. Crazy huh?
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Chambewy20
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Double overhand with chalk. Some folks who can have switched to a double overhand, stops the windmilling motion, keeps the bar more parallel to the body and has less drag on chins and legs when moving on up.
In my opinion, double overand hurts thumbs like a bitch, haven't used it much but damn!!
In my opinion, double overand hurts thumbs like a bitch, haven't used it much but damn!!
blut wump said:BFold, you rock. Posting vids like these, you're going to put IronMind out of business..
Thanks man...I post them weekly at my sponsors sites. If it is wrong to post them here...feel free to take them down. I sincerely don't want to step on anyone's toes.
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crazycarwes
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b fold the truth said:
Sweet vid dude looks like you guys are working hard!
Double over for me unless i'm doing 3 reps or less.
string_bean00
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Mixed grip, chalk if allowed and strapped otherwise.
coldblue1955
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I gotta use gloves for the most part or i'll hurt my hands.anthrax said:
coldblue1955
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a reg. grip here.anthrax said:
chicknlegs
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Regular grip until I am nearing my 1RM. Then i'll go mixed grip.
