What's the real deal with test e?

[krishna]

Alright, I always thought test e took 3-4 weeks to kick in. One guy on here has gained 18 pounds in like 25 days. Also, I have two friends that just started it 3 days ago, and they're both up 3 pounds with raging libidos and increased aggression. I can definitely tell they're on. I've also seen other people on here say they can feel it right away. What's the real scoop on this stuff?

 

[Goldprospector]

I think it differs for each person....and I would assume that metabolism plays a role. As far as libido...I feel test E within 2 weeks. I DO NOT get agressive at all. I am not sure as to the weight gain part because I have always started a Test cycle with at least 4 weeks of D-bol.

 

[Beachbum1546]

Test E is working as soon as you inject it. With the enanthat ester it's half-life is much longer. Meaning it takes longer for the test to reach it's peak. That takes 3-4 weeks for the peak amount to hit.

Example (completly made up numbers):
you inject 500mgs/wk of test enanthate. 3 days in you body has used 150mgs of that injection.
3 weeks down the line and continuous 500mg/wk injections you body is probably saturated with 700-800mgs of test in your system. This is when people say it kicks in, because it is the highest amount of test you body will have from the 500mg/wk injection. Meaning, this is when you will have the most growth.

 

[Beachboy6294]

This is my first time taking test e and I really haven't felt it kick in yet and today is the start of my second week but when I do I will let you know. I'm taking 500mgs a week with 650mgs of EQ.

 

[Its All Genetics]

ive run one test e cycle and im in the middle of one. i notice my libio goes up slowly but at weak 4-5 and then there on out its throught eh roof. yet at week 2 im hornier tht usual. strength= some of it mental. the rest idk cause i use an oral to kick start. good for them though if they can feel it that soon....everyone is different and i think genetics is a huge part of how u re act to different drugs

 

[digimon7068]

Test E is working as soon as you inject it. With the enanthat ester it's half-life is much longer. Meaning it takes longer for the test to reach it's peak. That takes 3-4 weeks for the peak amount to hit.

Example (completly made up numbers):
you inject 500mgs/wk of test enanthate. 3 days in you body has used 150mgs of that injection.
3 weeks down the line and continuous 500mg/wk injections you body is probably saturated with 700-800mgs of test in your system. This is when people say it kicks in, because it is the highest amount of test you body will have from the 500mg/wk injection. Meaning, this is when you will have the most growth.

Following your theory (and it makes sense to me), if you had test e (or any other long lasting test for that matter) that has a concentration of 500mg/ml (as some UG stuff does), why would there be a need to inject more than once a week (assuming a dose of 500mg/wk)??

Everyone around here is into divided doses for consistent levels (which makes zero sense if we accept your theory) but, IMO the less sticks, the better.

 

[Beachbum1546]

Following your theory (and it makes sense to me), if you had test e (or any other long lasting test for that matter) that has a concentration of 500mg/ml (as some UG stuff does), why would there be a need to inject more than once a week (assuming a dose of 500mg/wk)??

Everyone around here is into divided doses for consistent levels (which makes zero sense if we accept your theory) but, IMO the less sticks, the better.

When cycling you inject and you test levels gradually increase. It's a positive linear curve. This is what I explained in my earlier post. BUT, in that gradual upward slope there are small spikes and drops in test levels. This is caused by a test injection. On the whole the slope goes up but everytime you inject 500mgs into yourself there is a spike in your test levels then a drop. It's not a major spike to disrupt the gradual slope but it is important to address. In order to stop these spikes and create an ideal gradual slope you inject more frequently. Meaning if you injected 250mgs twice a week versus 500mgs once a week, the spike from the 250mg inject is less than the 500mg spike. You can see how more frequent injects can be beneficial.

Do you want to explain why stable test level in your blood is important?

 

[DieselGunz]

When cycling you inject and you test levels gradually increase. It's a positive linear curve. This is what I explained in my earlier post. BUT, in that gradual upward slope there are small spikes and drops in test levels. This is caused by a test injection. On the whole the slope goes up but everytime you inject 500mgs into yourself there is a spike in your test levels then a drop. It's not a major spike to disrupt the gradual slope but it is important to address. In order to stop these spikes and create an ideal gradual slope you inject more frequently. Meaning if you injected 250mgs twice a week versus 500mgs once a week, the spike from the 250mg inject is less than the 500mg spike. You can see how more frequent injects can be beneficial.

Do you want to explain why stable test level in your blood is important?

great post makes alot of sense

 

[UA_Iron]

When cycling you inject and you test levels gradually increase. It's a positive linear curve. This is what I explained in my earlier post. BUT, in that gradual upward slope there are small spikes and drops in test levels. This is caused by a test injection. On the whole the slope goes up but everytime you inject 500mgs into yourself there is a spike in your test levels then a drop. It's not a major spike to disrupt the gradual slope but it is important to address. In order to stop these spikes and create an ideal gradual slope you inject more frequently. Meaning if you injected 250mgs twice a week versus 500mgs once a week, the spike from the 250mg inject is less than the 500mg spike. You can see how more frequent injects can be beneficial.

Do you want to explain why stable test level in your blood is important?

its not linear dude, its exponential. I think that they peak around 1200mg if you're doing 500mg a week.

 

[Beachbum1546]

its not linear dude, its exponential. I think that they peak around 1200mg if you're doing 500mg a week.

Why exponential? Lol, that would mean if you were taking 500mgs/wk, after two weeks you would have 25,000mgs of test in you. Don't think so.

I said it was a positive linear curve. Meaning it increases over time and increases at an increasing rate. Sort of like if you cut a capital "U" in half. The right part would represent your test level. Mind, it will level off eventually though.

 

[biteme]

its not linear dude, its exponential. I think that they peak around 1200mg if you're doing 500mg a week.

My test level came back at 3000 when I was taking 500 mgs. a week. The doctor didn't know I was on and he was like wtf? LOL

 

[UA_Iron]

My test level came back at 3000 when I was taking 500 mgs. a week. The doctor didn't know I was on and he was like wtf? LOL

do you remember what the units were for the 3000 measurements? I think they usually use like ng/dL or something like that....

 

[UA_Iron]

Why exponential? Lol, that would mean if you were taking 500mgs/wk, after two weeks you would have 25,000mgs of test in you. Don't think so.

I said it was a positive linear curve. Meaning it increases over time and increases at an increasing rate. Sort of like if you cut a capital "U" in half. The right part would represent your test level. Mind, it will level off eventually though.

It's not a classical exponential function sorry. It's sort of a compounding exponential decay function....

Actually it gets really complicated...you have an absorption side to the ester, where the enanthate side is cleaved off and the testosterone becomes usable, then you have a decay function as the testosterone is used. I actually think it becomes really complicated, I admit that I do not know all the mechanisms involved in blood serum testosterone levels versus how much is injected into you.

But if it were linear it would mean it could be modeled using y = mx+b, which isnt the case.

 

[Beachbum1546]

It's not a classical exponential function sorry. It's sort of a compounding exponential decay function....

Actually it gets really complicated...you have an absorption side to the ester, where the enanthate side is cleaved off and the testosterone becomes usable, then you have a decay function as the testosterone is used. I actually think it becomes really complicated, I admit that I do not know all the mechanisms involved in blood serum testosterone levels versus how much is injected into you.

But if it were linear it would mean it could be modeled using y = mx+b, which isnt the case.

I hear ya.

 

[digimon7068]

When cycling you inject and you test levels gradually increase. It's a positive linear curve. This is what I explained in my earlier post. BUT, in that gradual upward slope there are small spikes and drops in test levels. This is caused by a test injection. On the whole the slope goes up but everytime you inject 500mgs into yourself there is a spike in your test levels then a drop. It's not a major spike to disrupt the gradual slope but it is important to address. In order to stop these spikes and create an ideal gradual slope you inject more frequently. Meaning if you injected 250mgs twice a week versus 500mgs once a week, the spike from the 250mg inject is less than the 500mg spike. You can see how more frequent injects can be beneficial.

Do you want to explain why stable test level in your blood is important?

OK. So there's little spikes around inject day. Is that really "bad".

 

[digimon7068]

I hear ya.

Me too. . .umm. . .but I don't necessarily understand you. Damn algebra!

 

[Beachboy6294]

OK one thing for sure Instead of taking the 500mgs of Test E like I did last week and could barely walk from being so sore and swollen. I took 250mgs of Test E yesterday with the 650mgs of EQ and it is a little sore but thats all! So I'll take the other 250mgs on Thursday. So glad that worker better for me!!!!! Also my Libido is really up today but I think that is due to all the girls in the cycling class this morning, Damn!!!!!

 

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[UA_Iron]

OK. So there's little spikes around inject day. Is that really "bad".

the bottleneck is really how fast it is absorbed. No its not bad.

I think as far injection methods go things get out of hand with technicalities - so inject twice a week and you should be fine.

 

[djsf]

Alright, I always thought test e took 3-4 weeks to kick in. One guy on here has gained 18 pounds in like 25 days. Also, I have two friends that just started it 3 days ago, and they're both up 3 pounds with raging libidos and increased aggression. I can definitely tell they're on. I've also seen other people on here say they can feel it right away. What's the real scoop on this stuff?

You can use "roidcalc" to run a simulation of blood levels for most common steroids. http://www.roidcalc.com

Let's say you are doing 150mg test enant e2d (525mg/week) for 8 weeks, then here is how your blood levels would look. (Note: for enanthate, use the "Testoviron/Primoteston/Testen" column). You can see blood levels max out at around 75mg after 3 weeks.

Injects Day Total mg in blood/day
150mg(5) 1 18 mg
........ 2 16 mg
150mg(5) 3 32 mg
........ 4 28 mg
150mg(5) 5 43 mg
........ 6 37 mg
150mg(5) 7 51 mg
........ 8 44 mg
150mg(5) 9 57 mg
........ 10 50 mg
150mg(5) 11 62 mg
........ 12 54 mg
150mg(5) 13 65 mg
........ 14 57 mg
150mg(5) 15 68 mg
........ 16 59 mg
150mg(5) 17 70 mg
........ 18 61 mg
150mg(5) 19 71 mg
........ 20 62 mg
150mg(5) 21 73 mg
........ 22 63 mg
150mg(5) 23 73 mg
........ 24 64 mg
150mg(5) 25 74 mg
........ 26 65 mg
150mg(5) 27 75 mg
........ 28 65 mg
150mg(5) 29 75 mg
........ 30 65 mg
150mg(5) 31 75 mg
........ 32 66 mg
150mg(5) 33 75 mg
........ 34 66 mg
150mg(5) 35 76 mg
........ 36 66 mg
150mg(5) 37 76 mg
........ 38 66 mg
150mg(5) 39 76 mg
........ 40 66 mg
150mg(5) 41 76 mg
........ 42 66 mg
150mg(5) 43 76 mg
........ 44 66 mg
150mg(5) 45 76 mg
........ 46 66 mg
150mg(5) 47 76 mg
........ 48 66 mg
150mg(5) 49 76 mg
........ 50 66 mg
150mg(5) 51 76 mg
........ 52 66 mg
150mg(5) 53 76 mg
........ 54 66 mg
150mg(5) 55 76 mg
........ 56 66 mg

 

[Ozz2001]

Alright, I always thought test e took 3-4 weeks to kick in. One guy on here has gained 18 pounds in like 25 days. Also, I have two friends that just started it 3 days ago, and they're both up 3 pounds with raging libidos and increased aggression. I can definitely tell they're on. I've also seen other people on here say they can feel it right away. What's the real scoop on this stuff?

I have no fancy high tech answer for you! Because my goal isnt to be a brain just get big! test-E takes 2 to 3 weeks to kick in and really feel it.As for 18 pounds in 25 days i find that hard to believe,thats almost a pound a day..8 to 10 is probably water..Aggression never seen that in test myself maybe its in there head or got some serious estro going on..You want to feel test right away try prop then you will feel it right away..Have to remember it could be different affects depending on how many times you have done a test cycle or steriods...I know 750 gives me no sides or water were others may blow up like a balloon and grow tits lol...Anyways good question bro...

 

[Beachboy6294]

Awesome site bro!!! Thanks...

 

[02gixxersix2]

3-4 weeks is when most people begin to see the biggst gains. If you gain 25 lbs in the first 4 weeks most of it is probably water. However you will have higher test levels even in week 1. I know I have a better mood and sex drive within the first week on long ester test. Gains just start to solidify around week 4 or 5.

 

[krishna]

How the hell do I award these 1000 karma points?

 

[mendo]

For me the pumps start at around 3 weeks. But I definately feel a sense of wellbeing and an increase in libido after the first few days.

 

[mendo]

How the hell do I award these 1000 karma points?

Type in m-e-n-d-o and click donate.

 

[Guvna]

peak blood levels for enathate are achieved the day after an injection, with test levels gradually dereasing from there. However, 3-4 days after the initial inject, there is another. In this second injection, there is another spike on day two with the highest levels. But, some test is still left over from the first inject. So, while from day 2 of a shot, test levels have a localized downward trend until the next shot, the global trend of one's test levels in generally increasing because of the cumulative remaining esterfied test from prior injects.


However, there is a point in which the ester decay equals the quantity injected. This point is called "peak blood concentrations," and usually happens around week 3-4, that is why most people "feel" it around then (There are a few other reasons too, but I am not going to get into them). This is why I am a proponent of frontloading -peak blood levels as soon as the second day, and keeping them there the rest of the cycle. There is no reason for sub-optimum blood concentrations for 3-4 weeks at the beginning of a cycle, especially considering these sub-optimum levels are already shutting you down, whithout seeing optimal gains.

 

[Guvna]

still didnt give out that k?

 

[krishna]

Can't figure out how the hell to do it!

 

[mendo]

Can't figure out how the hell to do it!

At the top right corner of each post it says "award karma to this post"...just click on the one you want to give karma to...

 

[krishna]

Ok cool; I can't believe I didn't see that before. Guvna was the most in depth so he wins this time. Props to you all though!

 

[Beachbum1546]

I just wanted to let you know that I spent time to answer your question before the thread was loaded with 1000 karma and the K awarded post basically said the exact same thing I did. Kind of PO'ed.

 

[krishna]

I just wanted to let you know that I spent time to answer your question before the thread was loaded with 1000 karma and the K awarded post basically said the exact same thing I did. Kind of PO'ed.

Yours was a good post too bro. It was actually kind of hard to decide. Guvna's was just a little more technical. I didn't even realize that you answered before it was a k awarded thread. I appreciate your response, and it was nothing personal. Peace brotha!

 

[rodneyabs]

LOL! you won't feel test e kick in for at least three weeks. and LOL @ "increased aggression!!!!" ahahhahhhahaa! fuckin iidot newbie 18 yr olds...lol