I AGREE . Lets fece it though , Certain steroids like anadrol will make a person rediculosly big and stong in a matter of days . After you go off you will soose that strength and size no matter how good you eat and how hard you work out,. and Some Like winny will increase strenght and endurence gradually over the coarse of 2 months , (what It might takeover he coarse of a year naturally). With hard work and good diet , not to much is lost. A lot of time was saved. Thats the way I like to use roids smartly just my opinion