This thread brings to attention a very salient point. This may sound very shallow and cruel, but here it is: IF YOU'RE NOT AT LEAST DECENT LOOKING, DON'T GO OUT TO NICE CLUBS OR BARS. That means, if you're fat, don't go, stay home and do cardio instead. If you're one of those skinny, heroin-sheek fuckers, go seek help for your addictions and get into shape. In my humble, opinion, very few people are actually born "ugly"; almost anybody can look AT LEAST decent if they just take care of themselves. Eat right, do cardio, lift weights, get enough sleep, etc. Take me for example, until I was about 17, I didn't give a shit about my health or body... no big surprise that I never got any chicks. Then, after one summer when I decided to get into shape and lost 35 lbs and got into shape, all of a sudden BAM--chicks liked me. So, it really is all up to the person. I think people who constantly abuse and neglect their bodies and health deserve to look like shit, and hence shouldn't deserve to go out. Just my 2 cents.