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whats the best test to cut with ?

benrock

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i have acess to testoviron, qv cyp, qv prop , or ara t-test or sustonan250 ?

which is best and at what dosage , i also have aromisan as an anti e

im 19% bf and my friend was similar and he did sust for 10 weeks and he went from %20 bf to %10 in 10 weeks just with 250mg every 5 days and alot of cardio and a strict diet
 
I would reccommend doing 50mg of prop, ed. or 100mg eod. Do this for 6-8 weeks. I know of some guys that get great results using prop for cutting. The most important thing is diet. Karma? Eh? Good luck bro!

Chris
 
you need to work on diet and cardio to cut, don't rely on a specific compound or drug. You CAN cut on any kind of test, hell you can stay cut on damn near anything if your diet is in check
 
DRRman said:
you need to work on diet and cardio to cut, don't rely on a specific compound or drug. You CAN cut on any kind of test, hell you can stay cut on damn near anything if your diet is in check

Bump that, if your diet and cardio are right, it doesn't matter what you use to cut, use enan if you want. The only reason people recommend prop is because they think there's less bloat with prop, that may be, but in cutting, maybe I'm on my own here, but I am looking for fat loss, not water loss, or lack of water gain. Now, if you are doing a contest, then this may make a difference. Anyway, that's my rambling on that subject.
 
Most ppl use prop, but any test will work well if diet/cardio is up to par.
 
im using 150eod of QV prop this is by far the best test i have used not brand wise but ester wise i have seen great hardness and more vascularity....in the past i have used enath, sus, cyp all at low and high doses and have never had such great results looks and feeling wise with anyother test......Prop is my new test i will always use it. I was running weeks1-5prop deca dbol then i switch to 5-10prop deca winny now last 5 weeks is prop and winny....GREAT RESULTS !!!

Diet is everything !!
 
I prefer sust for that, cant explain why just worked better for me and people I know. I had to have an anti e liquidex b/c of bloating, but easily available from liquidresearch.com for research purposes only of course. Sust every five days is what I did, lost weight incredibilty fast with a hipro, low carb diet. I cant say exactly how much b/c I gained muscle at the same time, but quite dramatic when I do it.
 
Satch also uses sust for cutting. I think I'll try that too.
 
well i have 20 testoviron and 5 karachi sust ,

how fast is prop in and out , it seems that it doesent stay with you that long , so how do you keep your gains ?

i mean does prop shut you down as much and does it cause a higher setrogen spike ?

the only thing that sounds good about the prop is you have more control , right ?

like if you start getting gyno or start getting real aggesseve you can back of
 
Okay, the amount of gains you keep has nothing to do with the ester that is attached to the AS. The ester only delays the release of the testosterone into the blood stream. Actually because of the light weight of the ester in prop you are actually getting more test per mg than any other esterfied testosterone.
 
Omnadren worked good for me at 250mg every 4 or 5 days. Like everyone said though you can use any test to cut. Just use some ldex to keep the bloat off.
 
oringialy posted by: luciasbrown
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(I prefer sust for that, cant explain why just worked better for me and people I know. I had to have an anti e liquidex b/c of bloating, but easily available from liquidresearch.com for research purposes only of course. Sust every five days is what I did, lost weight incredibilty fast with a hipro, low carb diet. I cant say exactly how much b/c I gained muscle at the same time, but quite dramatic when I do it.)
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Hey, I got some lequidex. How affective was it and did you get real vascular off of it. How much did you run with your cycle. Thanks.
 
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Well here is my theory thus far...

I am newer at the juice game than many around here, with only a few cycles under my belt. I will tell you this, wether or not prop gives less bloat is hard to say. There are a few variables in this equasion. L-dex, Nolva or Proviron use, and of course diet and cardio. The cutting diet may be low in carbs, but sodiuim intake will effect appearance as well. My theory is this...why not use Prop?....Why start dieting and have to wait 4-5 weeks for Cyo or Enan or a test blend to really kick in? You can get almost immediate results with Prop and start the most muscle sparing effect possible quicker as well.
 
Sanfran, Either I'm missing something here or you don't understand what cutting and or bloat is. Edema or bloat refers to water retention, while "cutting" deals with losing bodyfat. I don't see what the 2 have to do with each other. Sure you will hold a little bit of water but when you end your cycle the water goes too.
 
well when you don't diet, and eat like shit you add to the bloat. Eating like shit means more carbs, more sodium, and more retention of water and fat, therefore harder to look cut, so losing bodyfat and losing water retention go hand in hand for most people
 
tapoutm said:
oringialy posted by: luciasbrown
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(I prefer sust for that, cant explain why just worked better for me and people I know. I had to have an anti e liquidex b/c of bloating, but easily available from liquidresearch.com for research purposes only of course. Sust every five days is what I did, lost weight incredibilty fast with a hipro, low carb diet. I cant say exactly how much b/c I gained muscle at the same time, but quite dramatic when I do it.)
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Hey, I got some lequidex. How affective was it and did you get real vascular off of it. How much did you run with your cycle. Thanks.

Very effective, I was going to hold off and use it later ,but I got really bloated, so I took .25mg everyday, I had the IP .25tabs. Im going to go with liquidex next. Lost the bloat in three days. I got vascular, but was somewhat flatter than I should have been b/c of the low carb cutting diet I was on. To the others, the more fat you have, the more bloat you'll get. As you lose fat the less water you'll have. This means your cutting and still bloated. Thats why you take the Ldex. Youll piss the bloat away in 3-5 days.
 
Ever heard the slogan "test is test"?

Well, test is test is test. It all has the EXACT same physiological effect on your body whether it is followed by the word Enanthate or Undecoate or whatever. The only difference is how long the substance stays active in your body.

Asking "what's the best test" is like asking what's the best H20? Water or ice? I heard there's a new one out called water vapor, it's the bomb!
 
i never noticed much difference in bloat between test suspension, prop, or enth.
diet is when i notice. i started this cycle on prop/tren. ate like mad, gained 20+ was bloated as hell. after 2-3 wks phased in enth and have been on just that for over a week and added nolva and cleaned up diet. went from 235 to 225 and vascularity is returning and overall much tighter.
 
test is test


period
 
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