Honestly, it's not rocket science. Test (750-1000 mg), deca (no more than 600 mg), and GH (10 iu EOD). That, with a bulking DIET will blow you up. Bulk vs cut is diet dependent.
no orals you say
if you dont mind the jabs
weeks 1-12 sust @250mg eod
weeks 1-10npp@150mg eod
weeks 1-4 suspension100mg ed
weeks 1-12 eq@500mg
weeks 10-14 tren@100mg ed
weeks 10-14 prop@100mg ed
weeks 14+pct
hgh@5 ius starting 4 weeks before the cycle and 50mcgs of igf 4 weeks on 4 weeks off through out the cycle and pct
Number man (lol) is right, its very simple. Heres what I'd go with:
Test E, 1000mg/wk, 1-14wks
Tren Acet, 100mg/eod, 1-10wks
EQ, 600mg/wk, 1-16wks
I'd do something like that. I've been running Test/Tren cycles (just started including Tbol) for the past few years and it works fantastic for me. Tren keeps the water/bloat off from the test and the Tbol helps kickstart along with the tren. Theres nothing like tren baby!
Honestly, it's not rocket science. Test (750-1000 mg), deca (no more than 600 mg), and GH (10 iu EOD). That, with a bulking DIET will blow you up. Bulk vs cut is diet dependent.
That's really the issue. I made it up to 230 lbs natty and was bigger than pretty much all of the guys I knew personally who were juicing (obviously this excludes guys I know who compete). Now that I've taken my natural size and added to it while adding to my knowledge along the way I feel the sky is the limit. And as much as I LOVE to bulk, I'm cutting now on very mild AAS (dose is still kinda high, but the compounds right now are mild - no fina, no winstrol, etc) and I feel great. RED Blast and T-rex are getting me through my workouts, YES is helping pre-cardio and will site-specific fat loss, and the results I get from cutting are much faster and more dramatic than from bulking. But what I'm trying to beat to death is that it's all about the Diet. I used 100 mg of tren ED for 50 days a few months ago and when I deviated from a clean diet I lost the fat loss effects of the tren overnight. I also wasn't doing cardio at the time either. So live by the diet, die by the diet.