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oso0690

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I'm on maybe my 4th run of the 5x5 linear. My progress is starting to really slow down a bit, I'm hoping this 4th run starting at 6 weeks before PR weeks will help it but what if it doesn't? If I am to barely even be able to hit my PRs, what will I do next? should I go onto Periodization, try to switch up to dumbells or something?

I might be able to go for a while after 6 weeks but eventually I'm going to stall and that's what I'm asking. When I stall what should I do next?
 
When you say you've run it four times, do you mean you've been doing it with 5-rep sets each time? If so, something as simple as adjusting the number of reps and running that as a linear program might work (e.g. 6-8x3 or 3x8-10).
 
Great advice, CS.

oso0690 (you need to pick an easier name, LoL): Like CS said, make small changes and keep going. Start thinking of the 5x5 Linear Program as less of a "cookie cutter" program to be run over and over and over . . . Notice the big principles at work: progressive training (consistent, logical increases in weight on the bar), frequency (hit the lifts 2 times a week, hitting the whole body pretty much each session with one pulling exercise, one pushing exercise and one squat variation), and volume (you've got heavy, medium, and light days, and the volume is a little bit different on each day so you've got built in variation throughout the week). Now, you can basically plug any exercise into that formula, but it's best to stick to compound lifts. There's nothing that says "thou shalt do back squat, flat bench, and bent rows." Those are great exercises, but once you understand the program, you can rotate an exercise in and out (e.g., start doing close-grip bench on Fridays and flat bench on Mondays). Same goes for rep range really. You can switch an exercise or two to sets of 3, or sets of 10, etc. Just keep applying the basic principles: adding weight to the bar as often as possible but w/out burying yourself. By making SMALL logical adjustments, you're still following the basic 5x5 "plan" and you can make linear progress for several years really. The key to the 5x5 is learning the big picture, and learning how to train yourself (e.g., make gains week after week and adjust things when necessary to overcome obstacles). If you've run the 5x5 linear "program" 4 times and don't know what to do when you stall, you're missing some of the point. LoL No offense intended. Everybody has this problem regardless of their training experience.
 
8 sets of 3..Will actually last for more then a few weeks?

I understand the linear theory but obviously you have to pick a good rep range because something like 2 singles at 90%+ will be overkill even after 2 weeks. If I am to do 8 sets of 3, what should I try for maxes to see where I stand? 3 rep max and then try to work up to it? Then how do I ramp my weights say for a lift of going up to 200 pounds that day. would it go:
45x3
75x3
105x3
135x3
150x3
165x3
185x3
200x3?

someone please help me understand lol, i understand ramps and weights of like 3x8, 5x5, 4x6 etc, but not something like 8 sets of 3
 
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