What Steroids Are Alike?

[Nelson Montana]

If more people learn to analyze this simple question they'd do so much better in their cycles.

In other words, if Winny and mast and proviron all produce dry gains based on DHT elevation, which mix and match them? Just use one. ANd use one at a time. Maybe you'll prefer one or the other but if you start stacking from the start, you;'ll never know which works best for you and you're shooting in the dark.

Deca and Anadrol both add a lot of water weight. If you want that, PICK ONE. Using both is like mixing 2 types of wine in one glass in order to determine how you like each wine. You can't. You can guess, you can speculate and can theorize, but you never know for sure.

Personally, I like the idea of one compound for the first few cycles. But even advanced players rarely need two -- just use test and the one other steroid that you think is best. If you really want to get specific, three compounds.

If you're unsure about the quality of an oral -- do jst that oral for one week.. You'll know. Take a break for a couple of weeks and then try the other brand for a week. When mixed with other compounds there's really no way of knowing. This is why some guys swear one brand is great and someone else think it's crap.

When I see a newbie mixing 3, 4, 5 different compounds, it's just a random flailing in the hopes that it'll all work in someway. And it will. But you'll never learn what's best for you.

 

[Jack steel]

Good point Nelson!

 

[hurricane]

If more people learn to analyze this simple question they'd do so much better in their cycles.

In other words, if Winny and mast and proviron all produce dry gains based on DHT elevation, which mix and match them? Just use one. ANd use one at a time. Maybe you'll prefer one or the other but if you start stacking from the start, you;'ll never know which works best for you and you're shooting in the dark.

Deca and Anadrol both add a lot of water weight. If you want that, PICK ONE. Using both is like mixing 2 types of wine in one glass in order to determine how you like each wine. You can't. You can guess, you can speculate and can theorize, but you never know for sure.

Personally, I like the idea of one compound for the first few cycles. But even advanced players rarely need two -- just use test and the one other steroid that you think is best. If you really want to get specific, three compounds.

If you're unsure about the quality of an oral -- do jst that oral for one week.. You'll know. Take a break for a couple of weeks and then try the other brand for a week. When mixed with other compounds there's really no way of knowing. This is why some guys swear one brand is great and someone else think it's crap.

When I see a newbie mixing 3, 4, 5 different compounds, it's just a random flailing in the hopes that it'll all work in someway. And it will. But you'll never learn what's best for you.

this is a great post. noobs mixing to many compounds might yield great results but for future cycles, you will have no idea how indivial compounds affect you,that you have used in the past.Its a marathon not a sprint.Take it easy.This goes for battling sides effects also, not just judging what results you get from compounds.

 

[RickRock13]

I agree bro. There's too many guys jumping the gun and seeing how much oil they can fit into a syringe for a cycle stacking multiple compounds. More isn't necessarily better.

 

[bonacris]

Vast majority of people would still make great gains on dbol and test but feel like they have to up it every cycle to the point where it gets ridiculous

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[Soulthief]

Great post! Wish I would have tried it years ago. I'm running my first test only cycle now and I honestly feel like it is the best cycle I've ever ran.

 

[UA_Iron]

I've never strayed from the idea that a first cycle should be 500mg/week of test for 10-12 weeks. Knowing how test affects you will give you good insight into how other AAS will affect you.

 

[NegroPops]

maybe that is why Test, Tren, and Mast stack so well with each other. Weeeeird.. you may be on to something. lol

 

[meathead96]

I agree, test only for first cycle is always best imo. Trying one compound at a time allows you to see what works best for you. If you just throw a bunch of stuff into the mix at once you don't know which is giving you which sides/gains/etc.

 

[UA_Iron]

One stacks different anabolics together to compliment specific properties of each steroid with another steroid. You could do this for numerous reasons, the two extremes being to either compliment each other or to combat each other.

It's not wrong to stack deca and anadrol together. If mass is your main concern, test + deca + anadrol will help you get there. You just have to be willing to look like a bloated red faced monster in the process. If you're seriously competing this isn't an issue. Replace anadrol with dbol and the same argument could be made: "both bloat you"

Likewise, both masteron and tren are extremely androgenic, would it be wrong to stack them considering they have that similar property in common? No. Masteron has an affinity to bind to estrogen, and in some way mitigate the effects of progestins; in fact it was developed for treatment of breast cancer.

Pros will run winny, halo and masteron precontest to achieve a certain look. It doesn't matter that they all are extremely androgenic.

If you're new to this game:
1. Single compound at first, should always be Testosterone, I don't really care what other crazy ideas come up around here - there's not better advice than this.
2. If you're a spring-break cycle crowd then go ahead and run your oral only cycles or prohormones or whatever is in the gray area of legality.
3. Diet is still #1
4. Productive years throwing the weights around counts for a lot. 2 years of lifting before cycling isn't enough - and shows a lack of dedication. Chances are you'll give up on the game before ever making a lot of gains.

I could probably go on and on...

 

[MattJS]

Good post! Yeah there's a lot of cycles with 4+ compounds involved turning up! I'm not gonna start bashing others because I've used four and even five compounds at a time before...

I'm 180 @ 5'11, 250mgs of test alone is plenty to get me gaining but I was never satisfied with test gains so I tend to add a couple of other compounds in...

I have found over the past couple of years that the more compounds involved the worse the cycle turns out, my second cycle was test/eq/dbol/anadrol and easily the worst one I ran, gains were disappointing and I looked and felt like shit despite working my ass off (went into this one in bad shape which didn't help, a lesson learned)...

So everyone needs to experiment and find out what works for you, same as diet and training, it takes trial and error, see what you like and what you don't just make sure you're actually learning something from the cycles you do, which is much easier when you keep them simple...