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reelbig004
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Triple J said:
lmao...
sarita
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Every girl is different, maybe due to life experiences. Alot of it is in the attitude. I like a confident guy but if he is cocky it is the BIGGEST turn off.
Even if a guy is skinny and fulgly- a great personality can usually outweigh it(if the girl is not too shallow). Been there before.
Still aesthetically, I prefer a more muscular guy, on the shorter side (5"11 or below). I'm 5'7 & I find shorter guys more attractive for some reason, I dont know why.
Oh and pretty boys are torture, if a woman wanted that she could just be with another woman and be happier.
Good luck finding the one!
Sarita
Even if a guy is skinny and fulgly- a great personality can usually outweigh it(if the girl is not too shallow). Been there before.
Still aesthetically, I prefer a more muscular guy, on the shorter side (5"11 or below). I'm 5'7 & I find shorter guys more attractive for some reason, I dont know why.
Oh and pretty boys are torture, if a woman wanted that she could just be with another woman and be happier.
Good luck finding the one!
SaritaI personally can't handle little guys, not short, not skinny. But, I am a (nearly) six foot tall woman and I need a guy that can make me feel small. I am not into the guys that are skinny and metro, nor am I into the guys that are so built they get out of breath going upstairs, and all together look like they have difficulty walking. I do love a nicely built guy and built legs are what I love. The first thing I noticed on my hubby were his legs. He didn't even work out then but he had just come from the military and he is one of those guys who hardly has to train legs because they are naturally very muscular. He's 6'4 btw.
Roc86
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Girls are broads, no disrespect, just saying thats a word that been used forever. Anyhow i dont have an ego, im alot bigger than i was back then. I was 190 in highscool, id pretty much do chest one day and arms the next, then have a 3 day binge haha. Im around 220 now (2 years later) but i think the lean/vascular/hard look is alot more appealing than being too big or puffy.
And yeah getting p*ssy in highschool personally was alot easier than it is now.
And yeah getting p*ssy in highschool personally was alot easier than it is now.
I think, for the most part, unless you are very fat or extremely skinny is basically irrelevant. For girls, looks aren't everything. I must admit, me being a guy I don't care about anything else, but girls look for powerful, fun, outgoing, interesting men. Unless you are on a beach or something, most of the time your physique does not even matter. However, just like some girls are into black, italian, hispanic guys etc.. I know a fair share of ladies that just love big muscular guys. The thing with girls is that they all do not prefer one thing. Us guys we see a girl, and almost every guy in the room knows if they are hot or not. With girls, it's a different story. One girl may think a given guy is gorgeous while the next one may think they are ugly.
Ramcononer
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Girls Like Usher. Ive heard a lot of girls say they dont wan't a guy to be big. Just cut.
Damn Sluts.
Damn Sluts.
Ehh... I don't play head games if I'm dating someone I'm past those years on that one. If I don't know you well that's just my personality. I work hard at where I am at life, and to some guys it's all about looks. I think it is a heavy mix of both looks and brains and motivation in life. Maybe if you ever stop and think about it that the girl with the skinny guy was partially attracted to him... but then they connected on a mind level and that brought the intensity up another notch?! So she is very content walking with her man and secure enough in her own skin to realize that yes the guy walking by may be gorgeous but the one hand she is holding is priceless. The muscular guy may just be a visualization guy that she tries out later in bed with the skinnier guy. I don't have to sleep with a guy to 'sleep' with a guy. Also, she may feel more secure with the guy she is with because she knows that every other woman is not swooning over him and that keeps stragglers out of their relationship and 'incidents' from happening. Just a thought not that I am her...geoboy said:
MASSIVEMONSTER
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Where i work it cracks me up all the girls like the weasel guys not the bigger guys. It is true though that an average lean guy, about 5`10 at 185lb will be ideal for most girls. Fuck that, i`d prefer to be bigger and lean as fuck in the summer, and just laugh at all the skinny weasels with their ugly girlfriends.
Quiltie
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I used to think that I wanted to be really muscular, and that it would get me women once I got there. And once I was (pretty much) there, all I heard was "You probably spend all your time at the gym and have no time for a GF" or "you're a beefalo, go date an ox" or "musclehead". It sucked. From the celebs i've met in person, the people that have huge amounts of pull and charisma- They are skinny and small and look metrosexual. Maybe that's what women want. Look at Lance Armstrong(just in excellent shape, not big), he got Sheryl Crow and she's a dynamite piece of @ss, if you ask me...
This post leads me to ask the question why are you so worried about being the best looking guy or what is the most attractive physique to women? If bodybuilding is what you love to do why would you give up doing what you love to be more attractive to the opposite sex? I think everyone should do what they love and if you are doing something active and being physically fit I think that is attractive just on it's own. I think in general we just love a solid muscular build... some build that has some maculinity to it. I think women may be drawn to the metrosexual because he knows how to dress and he is very 'clean' looking. He always smells good, he loves to shop, and he knows what even looks good on women. Muscular guys have the appearance of a hard working kind of guy not worried about getting dirty and I think that is very appealing. With that said, I don't know to many muscular guys that love to shop with their girl unless it is at Victoria's. What girl wouldn't want a man that loves to shop if they love to shop. So maybe they themselves are not into working out but shopping. So like muscular people are more attracted to another muscular or physically fit person, it is common ground for the female shoppers to be attracted to a guy who can shop hours on end with them. Both enjoy and love what they do and finding someone of the opposite sex that loves to do what they do, and is eye appealing is even a bonus. So I wouldn't worry if you could smash the next guy just realize it's more skin deep attraction then just outward appearances.Quiltie said:
Maetenloch
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treilin said:
I think there's a lot of insight in what treilin says. If you're doing something just to attract women, that need for validation will end up coming through and be unattractive. You're better off doing what you love and enjoy and not really caring what other people think - you'll be a more contented person and you'll naturally project confidence and happiness.
However, take whatever a woman says about what she's attracted to with a large grain of salt. Women in general are notoriously bad about rationalizing before and after the fact why they were atracted to some guy. Physical attraction isn't a choice - we're attracted to what we're attracted to, not what we should be attracted to. You're much better off watching what women actually respond to in the real world than what they say they do. Spend some time in clubs watching which guys are successful with women and what they have in common. For the most part it's confidence, personality, and good fashion and grooming.
massatronic
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If you got into weights to attract women you need a change of tactics.
If you think women are going to stare at you in the street as they walk by with boyfriends because you can press 300lbs you are going to struggle.\
Men have to go out and earn women. Being bigs no problem but its not a solution either.
And expect tests. When they salg you off for being a meathead its a test- so you can show that your smart, funny and confident. Or for you to go 'oh shit' and walk off.
If you think women are going to stare at you in the street as they walk by with boyfriends because you can press 300lbs you are going to struggle.\
Men have to go out and earn women. Being bigs no problem but its not a solution either.
And expect tests. When they salg you off for being a meathead its a test- so you can show that your smart, funny and confident. Or for you to go 'oh shit' and walk off.
SgtSlaughter
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Buns:
I believe it's about time that you initiate an EF Singles event
Leaving Mr. B at home is your choice
I'm sick of meeting women out at "social" watering holes... they're all big time boozers most of the time, which means that they'll probably get wasted and screw one of my friends that go out regularly.
And meeting women at the gym isn't really an option... kinda hard when i'm focused on lifting. I look around but striking up a convo and then thinking about her the rest of the time would kill my workout i'm sure.
Meeting at work isn't an option, nor is at school.
I vote for a singles event. A meeting of single, intellectual, fitness entusiants.
/endstreamofconsciousness
P.S. I'm 22 y/o 6'1" like long walks on the beach and currently @ about 191 (down from 205lbs... 200ish +/- 2lbs in my gallery photos i think)... got a little ways to go before the summer.
Taking names and numbers... intellegent women need only apply
I believe it's about time that you initiate an EF Singles event
Leaving Mr. B at home is your choice
I'm sick of meeting women out at "social" watering holes... they're all big time boozers most of the time, which means that they'll probably get wasted and screw one of my friends that go out regularly.
And meeting women at the gym isn't really an option... kinda hard when i'm focused on lifting. I look around but striking up a convo and then thinking about her the rest of the time would kill my workout i'm sure.
Meeting at work isn't an option, nor is at school.
I vote for a singles event. A meeting of single, intellectual, fitness entusiants.
/endstreamofconsciousness
P.S. I'm 22 y/o 6'1" like long walks on the beach and currently @ about 191 (down from 205lbs... 200ish +/- 2lbs in my gallery photos i think)... got a little ways to go before the summer.
Taking names and numbers... intellegent women need only apply
jacshelb
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Fun thread. Want to throw in my 2 cents. Ok: broad shoulders a plus, smallish waist line a plus, tall is a plus. All of these things say: strong, fit, capable- i.e. alpha male type. When a guy gets real huge, it's more like "he's a big animal, maybe that's all he has going for him." But, mostly it's about the shoulder to waist ratio and height above all else. They say these denote testosterone, potency etc. I'm nearly 6'2" (yes, 6' 1.75") with a naturally broad shoulder set up, but have always been on the thin side. I never had problems getting female attention when I weighed 160 lbs and out of shape. But now that I hover between 205-220 I get a lot more attention. Also, anyone ever notice the way girls' heads turn when you are on test? Not every girl, but it's like they can sense it.
Also, lean abs are great in bed so a girl can, uh, rub up against during intercourse. That's gotta be a motivator subconsciously for women to be attracted to guys with
abs.
Also, a guy's dick is the same size whether he is 220 or 150. I wonder if women have any way of subconsciously determining penis size? Or, does it even really matter that much? I guess generous size would be a bonus to an extent.
Also, also: not good to have to small an abdomen- the area above the waistline and below the lats. When this is too small, proportionally, it gives a more "feminine" impression. This is one thing I have had to work at a little bit. Bringing in the middle/lower lats/back thickness up helps.
It's funny, I've been with the same girl for 9 years and I have thought about all these things. I guess no matter the situation, people would like to be perceived as attractive. If I can get some positive attention from women and still be respectful and keep good boundries, I'm happy with that. No need to cheat.
Jacob
Also, lean abs are great in bed so a girl can, uh, rub up against during intercourse. That's gotta be a motivator subconsciously for women to be attracted to guys with
abs.
Also, a guy's dick is the same size whether he is 220 or 150. I wonder if women have any way of subconsciously determining penis size? Or, does it even really matter that much? I guess generous size would be a bonus to an extent.
Also, also: not good to have to small an abdomen- the area above the waistline and below the lats. When this is too small, proportionally, it gives a more "feminine" impression. This is one thing I have had to work at a little bit. Bringing in the middle/lower lats/back thickness up helps.
It's funny, I've been with the same girl for 9 years and I have thought about all these things. I guess no matter the situation, people would like to be perceived as attractive. If I can get some positive attention from women and still be respectful and keep good boundries, I'm happy with that. No need to cheat.
Jacob
LOL NICE!. Well, you know I would include you in any such event ... I got you on PM-dial.sgtslaughter said:Buns:
I believe it's about time that you initiate an EF Singles event
Leaving Mr. B at home is your choice
I'm sick of meeting women out at "social" watering holes... they're all big time boozers most of the time, which means that they'll probably get wasted and screw one of my friends that go out regularly.
And meeting women at the gym isn't really an option... kinda hard when i'm focused on lifting. I look around but striking up a convo and then thinking about her the rest of the time would kill my workout i'm sure.
Meeting at work isn't an option, nor is at school.
I vote for a singles event. A meeting of single, intellectual, fitness entusiants.
/endstreamofconsciousness
P.S. I'm 22 y/o 6'1" like long walks on the beach and currently @ about 191 (down from 205lbs... 200ish +/- 2lbs in my gallery photos i think)... got a little ways to go before the summer.
Taking names and numbers... intellegent women need only apply
Unless of course they figure out a way to clone me (or Treil) first ... Oh & btw, I need to pre-screen these females applying for your EF ad.SgtSlaughter
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*Bunny* I 
I will send any and all applications I get to you! lol... yes, indeed; I would most happily accept and love forever a clone of you or Treil!
... or dare I say: both? No? ok, I'll take one clone
I will send any and all applications I get to you! lol... yes, indeed; I would most happily accept and love forever a clone of you or Treil!
... or dare I say: both? No? ok, I'll take one clone
I think it is a small subculture of women who are attracted to bodybuilder types.
The rest are "nesters" and they want someone who won't leave them, who will provide for them and who will sacrifice themselves for her needs.
They'd like him to be pretty, thin, have a nice wardrobe, a new car, an education and a job.
However, they'll accept a lot less physically for security.
The rest are "nesters" and they want someone who won't leave them, who will provide for them and who will sacrifice themselves for her needs.
They'd like him to be pretty, thin, have a nice wardrobe, a new car, an education and a job.
However, they'll accept a lot less physically for security.
seizer
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Honestly, I think really what attracts a girl is how well you are as a whole. You can be fuggin hot, nice body, face, whatever, but if you dont seem "you" and like a decent person when you're like that, those physical features just dont have that same appeal. THe reason why some of the in shape dudes can pull in more "tail" or whatever is because of the confidence they gave themselves by improving their appearance. Girl's in turn, see this confidence and are then attracted to the combination of both the mind and body and it becomes a win win situation for the dudes. The big dudes who cant pull in tail...the reason may be that they're insecure and they girls can see this. That's half of why alot of guys workout, unfortunately, some never overcome that insecurity and it scares away some of the girls too.
Being attractive does make it easier to meet women (and sleep with the slutty ones that night), but ultimatley a girl will stay with a guy because of whats on the inside. I may think I can have the pick of girls out there, and I probably could, but my girlfriend is hot and could have any guy out there. 10 months later I must have something going for me other than my looks because she still with me and lets just say i'm a student so its not for the $$$ lol.
SgtSlaughter
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CEASAR said:
Well put, I used to just talk about material things with women ect... like yeah I have a motorcycle license and ride a Harley (used to) and used to "pull in tail" a good amount as you've put it.
Now I try initiate an in depth convo and most of the females, loose their interest after the first few sentences.... damnit, I don't want to resort to hanging out in the library! Then again, i've seen some hot young librarians in my day, lol.
... eh, sacrificies are made daily. Good things happen to those who wait/are patient... or at least that's what I'm telling myself right now
Soo it seems as though you guys have the answer to what a girl wants already and what they think is hot or not. So I think this thread has been answered. In the long run it's you who needs to be happy with yourself. Once your happy by yourself then in addition to your own security a woman could only make you that much happier. Again worrying about what others think is a waste of time. It's your life so you just live it to the fullest and in the end you will die succesful looking back and saying "What a ride, and that was great"
It appears as though those who are worried about a girl that doesn't stare at you it doesn't mean that you are not attractive... but maybe she is confident in who she is and has already found happiness and looking at you twice is not going to change the fact of how she feels about herself or her man. It seems like it's a tad bit of jealousy that not every woman would find you attractive. You think you found the end all answer of being a sexual object by becoming a huge musclular man. Then you find once you achieved what you thought was the sex magnet... that yes some women find bald men, or thin men, or metrosexuals more attractive and it is aggravating to you. All I can say is for every Jack there is a Jill... And Jack shouldn't be worried about taking all the Jill's.
It appears as though those who are worried about a girl that doesn't stare at you it doesn't mean that you are not attractive... but maybe she is confident in who she is and has already found happiness and looking at you twice is not going to change the fact of how she feels about herself or her man. It seems like it's a tad bit of jealousy that not every woman would find you attractive. You think you found the end all answer of being a sexual object by becoming a huge musclular man. Then you find once you achieved what you thought was the sex magnet... that yes some women find bald men, or thin men, or metrosexuals more attractive and it is aggravating to you. All I can say is for every Jack there is a Jill... And Jack shouldn't be worried about taking all the Jill's.
SaintLouis
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treilin said:
Well said! Very true, just be the best you can be and let the cards fall where they may. Stay true to yourself, and that will be your lifes greatest accomplishment. You can't win over everyone, but if you become the best you can be and are truly happy with it, that is what will attract the oppisite sex. If a few dont like what you have, thats cool. To each their own.
PS. No body is perfect, that means everyone. What makes people unique is their flaws. Remember, trying to be too perfect is really annoying.
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What a woman is looking for depends on if she's looking for a marriage partner or a one night stand. Just like you guys know about women, same is true for men - Not always the one you'd like to screw is the one you'd like to spend your life with. When it comes down to that life long choice, personality reigns supreme.
silver_shadow
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i don't know... i've had loads of chicks (sometimes shamelessly) check me out while standing with their scrawny boyfriends.... i'm now at around 215 @ 15% and have been 230 @ 8% in the past (i'm 5ft10). i don't think chicks don't dig bigger guys, i think you guys haven't realized it when they did. i think chicks are basically nymphs and they imagine a bigger guy giving them a good satisfying pussy pounding
MASSIVEMONSTER
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shit 230 @ 8% at 5`10 is big dude. That must have been fun!
silver_shadow
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silver_shadow
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silver_shadow says that dullboy isn't so dull 
SgtSlaughter
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You truely are one of the few enlightened ones. I've been telling my friends and actually girlfriends for years this... Make (or determine what makes) yourself happy first, love yourself, then you will find the love and happiness that will truely complete you. People go out there looking for that person that will make them happy... and sad to say they'll never find it unless they, themselves are indeed completely happy.treilin said:
Silver Shadow: "Dull boy isn't so dull" lol... you're correct, he gets that alot. In fact I believe his handle to be the antithesis of his true self, quite a character and great addition to the EF personalities.
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scorpiogirl
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We can tell by you hands actually. Size matters to a certain extent, but men admire their penis WAY more than women (unless we're using it for the moment - lol).jacshelb said:
I think men spend too much time thinking about their dicks. It has been proven; however, that men with large one's have more of the "playa" mentality due to wanting to spread their seed to keep their genes living on. Goes back to primitive times. A lot of women don't find big members attractive OR comfortable.
IMO, the guys in porn are freakish and I would run from that shit!!!....and the women who can take them must flap in the wind. Not attractive!
If you've been with your girl for 9 years.....your doing something right - and I'm sure it's not all penis size! lol
SgtSlaughter
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scorpiogirl said:
A agree with you post completly except for this ^^^.
I have reletively small hands for my stature (6'1") and that is in NO WAY... just going to have to trust me... reletive to my "member." I'm well above "average" but in no way sporting an abnormally large cucumber like some porn stars.
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scorpiogirl
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LOL.....it's true sgt!!! Not saying they're the same SIZE. Usually a taller boy will be .... taller? (for lack of a better term - lol) ...we can usually tell girth - and length (somewhat). Long skinny fingers with narrow hands are different than large hands with meaty fingers. Get what I'm sayin'? lolsgtslaughter said:
SgtSlaughter
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What ever you say. I'm not going to start a war about it, but I know you haven't conducted a well thought out study involving thousands of participants.... I'm just saying I'm one of the few, though I've been one of the few on alot of levels throughout my life
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scorpiogirl
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No, I haven't done a study - lol - but maybe I'll do some web research on it!!! lolsgtslaughter said:
What ever you say. I'm not going to start a war about it, but I know you haven't conducted a well thought out study involving thousands of participants.... I'm just saying I'm one of the few, though I've been one of the few on alot of levels throughout my life
OK, Sgt.....If I'd done the study myself - I'd be one of those "flappin' in the wind girls"......uh, I don't think I want that! lol
no war starting intended....just a casual observance......
AinteasybeingDiesie
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I think 5.11 235 is what girls like. Hey, what do you know! thats what I am!
SgtSlaughter
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scorpiogirl said:
Well seems to me that you need to be more professional about your studies! Much easier to simply REVIEW patients than bang a few hundred per day.
SgtSlaughter
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HERE'S some research for ya!!
I am above average on all in the top section, except waist, i'm on the low range 30-31 inches... don't know what my "hip" size is... actually my thighs may be slightly below average there
I gotta focus on my wheels!
On the "Member" Section... I hope you see what I mean about the average, No way am I average! That would suck... sorry for those out there being average, but I'm very happy with my overall size
hahaha, there's some very interesting stats on there!
I am above average on all in the top section, except waist, i'm on the low range 30-31 inches... don't know what my "hip" size is... actually my thighs may be slightly below average there
I gotta focus on my wheels!On the "Member" Section... I hope you see what I mean about the average, No way am I average! That would suck... sorry for those out there being average, but I'm very happy with my overall size
hahaha, there's some very interesting stats on there!
Sarge ... your posts are worthless without pics lolsgtslaughter said:HERE'S some research for ya!!
I am above average on all in the top section, except waist, i'm on the low range 30-31 inches... don't know what my "hip" size is... actually my thighs may be slightly below average there
On the "Member" Section... I hope you see what I mean about the average, No way am I average! That would suck... sorry for those out there being average, but I'm very happy with my overall size
hahaha, there's some very interesting stats on there!
It's a given you are in a class by yourself already so you don't need to elaborate. That is a very interesting site though.
Get working on them wheels son ...
sgtslaughter said:HERE'S some research for ya!!
I am above average on all in the top section, except waist, i'm on the low range 30-31 inches... don't know what my "hip" size is... actually my thighs may be slightly below average there
On the "Member" Section... I hope you see what I mean about the average, No way am I average! That would suck... sorry for those out there being average, but I'm very happy with my overall size
hahaha, there's some very interesting stats on there!
Nice link there
SgtSlaughter
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Thanks!
hehe, Hey Buns! ... check out the new sig!
hehe, Hey Buns! ... check out the new sig!
Wow has this thread switched gears or what?!sgtslaughter said:HERE'S some research for ya!!
I am above average on all in the top section, except waist, i'm on the low range 30-31 inches... don't know what my "hip" size is... actually my thighs may be slightly below average there
On the "Member" Section... I hope you see what I mean about the average, No way am I average! That would suck... sorry for those out there being average, but I'm very happy with my overall size
hahaha, there's some very interesting stats on there!
From talking about the metrosexual walking with a hot girl.... To talking about member sizes.
Anywho... I have my own preference on sizes also. Again.... going back to the original thread topic... For every Jack there is a Jill... But Jack likes to try out all the Jill's, and Jill will try out many Jack's until perfection. Well unless they get worn out trying on different Jack's and Jill's and settle.
Now I'm confusing myself
What I'm trying to say is just be happy with what you are and have, and don't suspect that everyone is so-called 'average' because doing so you are close-minded and will miss many opportunites all around.
I'm still looking for the right Jack. Looking and dating many Jack's has led me to narrow down what I specifically like in a man. Without all the figuring out and trying on different personalities I would have not learned as much as I have through the different opportuinities and may still have been lost as far as what I like.
Blah blah blah....
Maetenloch
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For those who are interested, here's a histogram of penis sizes from the Kinsey institute - http://www.edu.uni-klu.ac.at/~amiklaut/dr_nick/answer19.htm
6 inches is the average. Given that the average reported size on the internet is 7 - 7.5", either only the well-hung are getting online or there's at least a 20% 'brag factor' going on. I'm betting on the latter.
6 inches is the average. Given that the average reported size on the internet is 7 - 7.5", either only the well-hung are getting online or there's at least a 20% 'brag factor' going on. I'm betting on the latter.
Maetenloch
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sgtslaughter said:
I completely agree. I think a lot of marriages have failed for this very reason (including my own). People are looking for someone else to make them a complete happy person, but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. If you're not already fundamentally comfortable and happy with yourself, no one else, no matter how perfect and wonderful, can make you that way. In movies with happy endings, there's usually a wedding scene and then a fadeout. But in the real world life goes on and it's pretty much the same as before - sometimes even more so.
jayseven
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Ok you guys are all killing me. You want to get a girls, stop talking on bodybuilding chatrooms, and no offense to elitefitness.com I love this place- but I have to put my foot down- damnit put on your dancing shoes and get your mac on, and if worse comes to worse- escort numbers come after the classifieds. Jokes jokes.
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scorpiogirl
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LOL....you silly boy!sgtslaughter said:HERE'S some research for ya!!
I am above average on all in the top section, except waist, i'm on the low range 30-31 inches... don't know what my "hip" size is... actually my thighs may be slightly below average there
On the "Member" Section... I hope you see what I mean about the average, No way am I average! That would suck... sorry for those out there being average, but I'm very happy with my overall size
hahaha, there's some very interesting stats on there!
funny stuff! Yah.....get to workin' on those wheels!!!!
SgtSlaughter
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haha, thanks!scorpiogirl said:
Actually, I think they may meet the average after re accessing, i don't remember the measurement of them I took a few months ago. Posted update wheels and overall update shot in my long ass thread in the Diet forum. My wheels are decently proportioned afterall! lol.... just want to clarify that.
smoke67
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When I met my soon to be wife over ten years ago. I was about 165lbs lean but to small for a 6' frame. I am now 195 and look beter than I did at 25. One thing I can say for her. She loves me no matter how I look. I feel fortunate to have such a woman but she likes the way I am now.
Quiltie
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The reality is that you can only do so much to improve yourself, after that you need a little old-fashioned luck. I'd rather be lucky than good anyway. Women know that love is more than having big biceps or a high bench weight. It takes commitment, honesty, and a bunch of other softie crap that I could care less about. 
jayseven
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Ha! Commitment and honesty are over-rated- one girl for the rest of your life...are you out of your mind man???? No offense to you married folk, but wowzas thats a terrifying thought...I guess im young and naiive, but really its going to take a "shot-gun" wedding to take me down...bring it on women Im ready for ya.
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