DeepZenPill said:Anavar. Solid gains, great strength increase... NO SIDES![]()
Just that damn price...
BodyByFinaplix said:psyched, you need to find better sources then, because eq is pretty cheap. I'm running 600 mg a week with my stack, and after 4 weeks, I'm loving it. I've already got alot of new veins on my thighs, calves and arms. I can't believe how well it works with tren. You should consider making your own if your budget is that tight. All these guys are so willing to make tren, why not homebrew your other gear and save a few $$$?
Juice Authority said:Test, test, test...it's cheap, highly effective and gets the job done. Plus it puts my libido in overdrive.
Tell me about it! At least I scratched up enough grants to cover mine for the fall this time. My budget is pretty tight right now. Groceries are my #1 expense. Gear cost pennies, but even buying everything bulk or on sale, my food is cutting into my budget pretty bad.psychedout said:
Well I wouldn't say my sources EQ is expensive, its just that Test is significantly cheaper.... gotta love being a College guy. Tuition makes me wanna cry.
I am gonna look into brewing Tren soon. I've always wanted to, just haven't looked into for some odd reason.
willworkforhead said:Nobody has even mentioned sust yet. Nobody likes it??
BodyByFinaplix said:Mikey, on prop/tren/eq/letrozole/t3. Doing a clean bulk (I like high calorie CKD's for this, I'll get a few flames over saying that). Up 16 ibs, no apparent change in bf, have alot of new viens, and strength is going up.
BodyByFinaplix said:Mikey, on prop/tren/eq/letrozole/t3. Doing a clean bulk (I like high calorie CKD's for this, I'll get a few flames over saying that). Up 16 ibs, no apparent change in bf, have alot of new viens, and strength is going up.
Mavy are you related to Arnold by any chance?Mavy said:dbol and primo. Just curious why you group dbol and a-bombs together? They are totally different.

b1ewsw32 said:Mavy are you related to Arnold by any chance?
B32
little chris said:As for fina I'll never have the balls to try it.
galaxy said:I dont think Ive been off Eq in over a year. No sides, no toxicity. Why come off? 500mgs maintains my mass nicely.
galaxy said:I dont think Ive been off Eq in over a year. No sides, no toxicity. Why come off? 500mgs maintains my mass nicely.
geoboy said:u needing to do any maintenece dose of test to go with the 500 mg EQ ew?
also, only "maintain"? you don't grow on 500 eq?
Latamier said:No, I do get the night sweats pretty bad. As far as insomia I dont have a problem. I also dont see much of a diference in my lab results either as far as my natural test production goes. I guess thats a benefit of 6 months or longer, now that my body is use to it, it recovers very well. Mostly with only using clomid, but occassionally the addition of some HCG. Anxiety for me has never been a problem either.
hammertime30 said:It's an insult to put dbol and Abombs in the same menu....dbol should have it's on choice menu for it's much more respectable than fucking Abombs!!!
Latamier said:Definately tren, all the gains as test without the side effects.
manny78 said:I've answered this poll like 257 times before but anyway, here we go again. Anavar. Good strenght, quality muscle and sidees free. Primo comes second.
galaxy said:The sludge isnt permanent. You can clear it out with some medications. My doc said I had some streaking and gave me some crestor. Said it would take care of it. And that I needed to clean up diet.
Mavy said:Can you elaborate on this "sludge" problem we are talking about from var? I havent heard of this before. Is this something from var only, or all orals?
Mavy
geoboy said:the worst that i know of would be var, anadrol, winny, masteron, proviron (notice they have 1 thing in common- no estrogen. estrogen helps keep hdl levels up, & is the reason women have virtual immunity from heart disease untill menopause).
GreekGod said:So stacking aromatising with non aromatising steroids would bring things to an equilibrium ? Or maybe taking weak estrogens like clomid or nolvadex ?
geoboy said:if i recall, aromasin is the only anti-e that improves the lipid profile, the others hurt it.
as to adding aromatizing stuff, I guess if its replacing non-a gear then yes comparatively speaking, but all AAS have a rep for deteriorating hdl/ldl numbers, its just of question of which is worse.
I WISH ONE OF THE DOCS WOULD CHIME IN.....
geoboy said:"sludge" is just slang for artery plaque; the accumulated cholesterol based deposits lining the walls of the arteries that eventually leads to blockages and then agina, heart attacks, etc. one part of cardiovascular disease. the diameter of the pipe gets smaller & smaller till blood can't get tru & poof you get your heart attack.
HDL helps carry away the bad cholesterol (ldl) that forms these plaques.
var & many other orals (as well as non-aromatizing injectables) greatly lower HDL while on & for a time afterwards. During this HDL-impaired time, you are greatly accelerating your cardiovascular age, as you pile on the plaque. this is why so many BB wrestlers etc drop dead at a youing age of heart attacks, and/or end up as bypass patients.
the worst that i know of would be var, anadrol, winny, masteron, proviron (notice they have 1 thing in common- no estrogen. estrogen helps keep hdl levels up, & is the reason women have virtual immunity from heart disease untill menopause).
when i do var, i can easily get down to 9 HDL where low end of normal is 40-something. low HDL is considered an important independent risk factor for heart attack.
you can of course mitigate the risks with low animal fat diet (so less raw material for ldl & plaque) and diet high in fiber (or psyllium seed husk like metamucil), nuts & olive oil (which actually work to raise hdl), aerobic excercize, supplements like policosanol, noflush niacin.
my first cycle is going to be 30mg of anavar ed for six weeks,during this time im going to take garlic extract,green tea,and omega 3 oils to help the blood and heart with milk thistle for liver (fucking vitamins and supplements are costing more than my gear lol)do you think these are sufficent with such a low dose.geoboy said:Var kills HDL. destroyed HDL levels leaving you with PERMANENTLY added sludge in your arteries. do this often enuf, and you'll need your angioplasty or open heart surgery, or have your heart attack in your 30's or early 40's. Just ask arnold or the mentzer brothers or the many dead WWF wrestlers in their 30's.
far worse than bloating & hair loss & temporary elevated liver enzymes everyone obsesses on.
keep it pumpingeoboy said:"sludge" is just slang for artery plaque; the accumulated cholesterol based deposits lining the walls of the arteries that eventually leads to blockages and then agina, heart attacks, etc. one part of cardiovascular disease. the diameter of the pipe gets smaller & smaller till blood can't get tru & poof you get your heart attack.
HDL helps carry away the bad cholesterol (ldl) that forms these plaques.
var & many other orals (as well as non-aromatizing injectables) greatly lower HDL while on & for a time afterwards. During this HDL-impaired time, you are greatly accelerating your cardiovascular age, as you pile on the plaque. this is why so many BB wrestlers etc drop dead at a youing age of heart attacks, and/or end up as bypass patients.
the worst that i know of would be var, anadrol, winny, masteron, proviron (notice they have 1 thing in common- no estrogen. estrogen helps keep hdl levels up, & is the reason women have virtual immunity from heart disease untill menopause).
when i do var, i can easily get down to 9 HDL where low end of normal is 40-something. low HDL is considered an important independent risk factor for heart attack.
you can of course mitigate the risks with low animal fat diet (so less raw material for ldl & plaque) and diet high in fiber (or psyllium seed husk like metamucil), nuts & olive oil (which actually work to raise hdl), aerobic excercize, supplements like policosanol, noflush niacin.
04CL600 said:I don;t know where you get your info but proviron has minimal effect on HDL or lipid levels as a whole. Can you please provide the info that states otherwise????
04CL600 said:I don;t know where you get your info but proviron has minimal effect on HDL or lipid levels as a whole. Can you please provide the info that states otherwise????
04CL600 said:I don;t know where you get your info but proviron has minimal effect on HDL or lipid levels as a whole. Can you please provide the info that states otherwise????
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