What is this solidify your gains bullshit.

[horse]

As far as I understand the body:
Muscle is muscle, water is water and fat is fat.
We all know that you cant make or change one into another.(you cant make a beetle into a ferrari)
We also know that food, good training and clomid help keep our weight on after a cycle.

So, if I do a test only cycle and gain x amount of weight then its muscle,fat and water.(most of the time)
Now how the hell can winny, Eq ect solidify this gain in weight.
Dont get me wrong, I know that winny ,EQ,anavar are compounds that make you harder and test compounds retain more water but how does one make you keep more muscle after using another.

Im tired of hearing that THIS compound will SOLIDIFY your gains.

If you think other wise then please explain it to me.

 

[horse]

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[DREXX]

You are right!

By solidify your gains people mean using non-aromatizing drugs at the end of the cycle (Fina, Eq, Winny)

That way you lose the water weight from the heavy androgens before the cycle ends and then your weight stays about the same when you stop using the "solidifying gear"

 

[str8cubano]

ok, i do not know the "scientific" explenation, but i do know that some steroids are used to bridge at relatively small doses to keep muscle. for some reason, anavar/primo/winstrol are all good steroids to keep muscle hardness aferwards. I guess because you've cycled on test, and now suddenly you decrease testosterone intake, you loose muscle. But when you bridge with one of these drugs afterwards, htpa levels are suppressed (though not alot) and you keep most of your gains...

 

[muscleup]

I beleive once your off that if you continue eat well and train hard that you will keep most of your gains, and do your post cycle therapy right.I think most poeple talk about solidyfing by harding up,what DREXX said ...yup

 

[fitwizard]

bump

 

[da big thinker]

i really don't think of it like that...my reasoning behind "solidifying" gains at the end of a cycle,just means that by using a compound such anavar,EQ,winny...all these compounds do is keep your strength levels high,appetite could be a factor as well...therefore,intense training at the end/post of your cycle,diet is consistent,etc...these "solidifying" compounds are an aid to getting the job over and done with...i also truly beleive,that they aid in conserving your "added" weight and therefore the longer you keep that weight...the more your body gets used to it.

 

[horse]

I agree with you all about keeping androgens high at the end of the cycle. BUT

Saying that taking Eq and winny ect during or even after your cycle is not going to make you keep the muscle that youve put on any more than test will is bullshit. Only good nutrition and traing will help you keep this weight. Bridging just keeps you more anabolic so that muscle is not easly lost.

Im just tired of people using the words solidify. Once youve gained muscle its still muscle and needs food and traing to stay the same size , How can winny or Eq change that fact.
Horse

 

[Big Brother Val]

I don't know about you, but I keep a lot more of my muscle gains when I follow up test with EQ, than with Test alone.

Don't know what it means... but you yourself just said: "Bridging just keeps you more anabolic so that muscle is not easly lost."

Isn't that what it's meant to "solidify" your gains. Maybe "solidify" isn't the best word. Maybe EQ should be called a "gains keeper" compound. But solidify is easier to say.

 

[Riker29]

I belive by "solidify" ...... what is meant is ...

Gains in just weight itself can be a combination of fat, water, and muscle. If on (for example) a test-only cycle, there may be a lot of water weight per given amount of lean mass increase (than might other wsie occur if someone takes something like EQ or winny or tren or whatever WITH the Test).

What adding these other compounds may do, is allow the body to gain more lean mass, and less (in terms of percentage) amounts of fat and water. This may, when takling into account the overall weigh that is gained, allow MORE of the weight to be cuch that it is "kept", because its lean mass instead of fat or water.

Sure, lean mass gained is lean mass gained, but there may be MORE lean mass gained when using these things which are said to "solidify" gains - without a proportionate increase in fat and water - resulting in the appearance that more lean mas is actually "kept", or made more "permanent" (becuase water and fat are lost more quickly than muscle most of the time, water VERY quickly, then fat somewhate quickly depending upon diet).

This charactieristic of "permanence" is what is being referred to when someone says "solidify" (a figurative usage).

Also the term solidify refers to the fact that lean mass is more solid than water or fat (a more literal usage).