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What is the best stack for gaining mass and dropping weight.

ClitBoxer

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I know it's kind of an oxymoron but unfortunately I have the slower fat burning type metabolism that most of us are plagued with. I've been working out on and off for about 10 years and really cracked down the last 2 years, working out religiously 5 days a week. I'm semi satisfied with my results thus far, it just I've really have had a tough time losing body fat and putting on the mass I anticipated. I now understand that it takes time and dedication to really transform a out of shape body into a beach body but I now feel I'm ready to up my game a bit.

I started out about 235lbs and now weigh 210lbs. I definitely can tell a difference with my before and after pictures/new to old clothes but now I'm really looking to see some results. My goal is to get down to about 190-200lbs and replace most of my body fat with muscle.

In the last year I stacked anavar and test for 10weeks and then anavar test and clen for 12 weeks.
( Unfortunately me and my 3 friends that cycled together didn't see any to minimum results, but that was due to our BS, unreliable gear source)

I would really appreciate any experienced advice on what I should stack and what I should do to get to my goal.
 
If clen didn't help cut that extra fat out, it was probably bunk. Test and Var is a great cycle. However, what you're describing is surely tren, like Nelson said.
 
I'd like to thank everyone for their advice. It kind of sounds like tren would be my best bet. Would anyone be able to tell me a good stack, pct, mg, duration, brand ect. with tren.
 
test prop 100 mg/eod 1-8
tren ace 37.5mg/ed 1-8
winstrol 75mg/ed oral 2-8

works great from what i have read. and experimented with... oral winstrol is better in increases igf-1 tons more than injectable.. but you can run the injectable longer.
 
this is my next cycle

1-10 test e 600mgs every week
1-10 tren e 400mgs ever week
6-10 oral winstrol 30-50mgs ed
 
I do appreciate the advice I've been given but are there any other suggestions on a tren stack? Also what about pct for tren cycle?
 
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